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To: Alighieri who wrote (537930)12/21/2009 4:02:02 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575465
 
Al, > lack of consensus of the health care as a right causes less than perfection in legislation, mostly due to obstruction and maneuvers.

The right to free speech does not mean the government should pay for your means to express your views.

The right to bear arms does not mean the government should pay for your guns.

The right to have an abortion does not mean the government should pay for it.

Rights and entitlements are two separate things. Sometimes they go together, like the right to a public defender.

Tenchusatsu



To: Alighieri who wrote (537930)12/21/2009 6:21:12 PM
From: Joe NYC2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575465
 
Which is exactly what we have today...lack of consensus of the health care as a right causes less than perfection in legislation

Actually, I agree. When you start with ideological dogma (health care as a right), it is a non-starter in achieving consensus - because you are working on advancing a dogma, rather then working on steps to improve quality and affordability of medical care.

Then, when you are up the creek with your dogma, and are resorting to selling out special interests, bribery, Enron style gimmicks, the question is not between good and perfect, but between bad and fraudulent.

mostly due to obstruction and maneuvers.

No, it is because health care is a very complicated issue: supply, demand, cost, access, luxury, affordability, choice, innovation, individual responsibility, government responsibility, quality of care, quantity, desirability of quantity of care, prevention, intervention, litigation, drugs, natural therapies, nutrition.

There are so many dimensions here... Now we have Democrats gamble that a document unleashed after months of hiding in Harry Reid's closet will address it all...