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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (272248)12/28/2009 4:17:00 PM
From: SARMAN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
This is one of the rare posts where you talk sense.

Are the goals of these Militant Muslims unreachable? Sure. Eventually they will push so far that the rest of the world FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE THREAT THEY POSE.
Those militants were defeated in Egypt, Algeria, Syria, etc. The people do not want them. You want to defeat them, stop invading Muslim countries, stop killing Muslims, give the Palestinian a home land, stop the humiliation, force our sponsored governments to stop the corruptions and treat all their people fairly. To kill a forest fire you need to do one three things: Starve it of oxygen, starve it of heat or starve it of fuel. You do of those things and bingo, no fire. Same should be done with the extremists. Fighting it head on, as you suggested will only give it fuel.

We can cast blame in a significant number of directions, both externally and internally, for why the Mid-East is the way it is.
The ME has a small percentage of the Muslim world.

But the US is NOT the primary causative agent for why religious militancy is taking place in the Muslim world.
Indirectly, the US is the causative agent, as I discussed earlier.

They believe what they believe because we're permitting their radical clerics and leaders TO TEACH IT.
We can correct what these clerics and leader teach, but unfortunately instead of proving their teaching wrong, we are enforcing their teachings. We can do a better job, we can win the hearts and minds of people, yet, because of our greed, we opt not to.

Your willingness to excuse and ignore the brainwashing that is taking place among Muslims is no different than the racism and bigotry that we used to permit to be taught in this society.
It took us centuries before we changed our ways and did the right things, there is still hope.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (272248)1/7/2010 1:13:59 PM
From: Sun Tzu3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>> The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928

The first true Islamic fundamentalists (and a very militant one at that) were the khawarij en.wikipedia.org They were founded around 1300 years ago. All the current jihadist groups pale in comparison in religious zeal, strict adherence to literal translation of Koran, and militancy.

The question to you was why has fundamentalist Islamic movements have only become an issue in over the past 30-50 years. Why did they lay dormant with minimal followers for over a thousand years?

When you can answer that, you can find a solution to the problem.

ST