To: TobagoJack who wrote (71868 ) 12/29/2009 1:24:51 AM From: shades 4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559 General, anybody that bought a lump of shiny metal in 06, and put it in the hole in his backyard today will indeed now be able to exchange it for double the green pieces of paper as before. I did not buy shiny metal in 06 and bury in my yard, I am sorry to dissapoint you. As I told you years ago, I traded XOM and a few other energy plays, and had some real estate and vangaurd funds. But I want to talk to you about something far more important than money or profits - take a deep breath because I know that is hard for you to believe, what you have done to El Mat, robbing him of his creation, it is disgraceful and you should give back to El Mat what he poured his heart and mind and soul into and never pressure him again to do what has just been done. He didn't stick around with his nagging wife, he left her, and travelled the world to get away from it all working his little fingers putting up those towers all over the world, going to places like Iran that you wouldn't go to. When is the last time you did hard physical work like el mat climbing up a tower around bomb crazy muslims to build the future and bring the internet and cell phones to the opressed? To bring them hope and change? For that you and your minions couldn't even suffer him banning a few people for a couple days, like rodney dangerfield, el mat can't get no respect. And now I go to his thread and see some empty suit capitalist like you who told me his friend in Tenneessee would let poor homeless vets freeze in the cold than let bums move into his vacant building - that is REAL LIVES you are damaging. You do not deserve to follow in El Mats footsteps and moderate that thread, you should be ashamed of yourself for what you have done, pathetic. I do not know where you went wrong in life Jay Chen, your granpappy seemed like a guy that really cared about people, but you don't. If my financial future requires me to dig holes for shiny metal in my backyard, then we are all already sunk, because that world of anarchy will be the death of us all. The destruction you bring on lesser people so that some gold mines can be dug just to bury back in a vault somewhere in another hole in the ground is disgusting and a crime against humanity. You are so detached from the REAL WORLD in which you live hiding behind your trading screen abstracted into the financial matrix you have lost all touch.images.google.com Some pictures of what your MEMES are doing to REAL PEOPLE in the REAL WORLD. You want to preach GOLD hoarding to me, you take your little daughter and wife and your mistress and go to some of the rainforests where heap leaching and the cyanide is killing the fish and the indigenous people and you look into their eyes and say well I am JAY CHEN, and I need to kill you and your fish and your children so that my daughter and wife and mistress can have fancy clothes and cars and expensive trips all over the world by hoarding shiny metal - how pathetic. In fact answer me this oh great gold bug, how many gold mines have you visited to witness first hand what your gold bug meme does in the REAL WORLD? Name them for me and what countries they were in? How many gold mine laborers have you worked hand in hand with even 1 day to see what is happening in the REAL WORLD outside of your little tiny financial abstraction of it? You are of the same cloth as the kleptocrats that are opressing us all, and the few here who think because they can make a little money listening at your gold calls are already starting down the path of a sith lord - equally opressing the lesser people on this planet with that gold bug abstracted reality meme. You had a masters degree in something once didn't you Jay - you were creating real output for this world at one point, but you traded it in to do something more abstract and get further away from reality on that trading terminal living off the buying and selling of others on shiny metal. You talk about inflation in france, well you should really like this info then from Innes in 1913 - he uses the monetary history of France to tell you how money REALLy evolved, not your false ideas about it - read the whole thing - then go visit a gold mine - and then lets have a real talk about the real world - not your fantasy one. The road to hell is paved with good intentions jay chen, you scare the hell out of me, Ilaine was right about you.moslereconomics.com From The Banking Law Journal, May 1913. By A. Mitchell Innes. The governments of the world have, in fact, conspired together to make a corner in gold and to hold it up at a prohibitive price, to the great profit of the mine owners and the loss of the rest of mankind. The result of this policy is that billions of dollar’s worth of gold are stored in the vaults of banks and treasuries, from the recesses of which they will never emerge, till a more rational policy is adopted. Limitations of space compel me to close this article here, and prevent the consideration of many interesting questions to which the credit theory of money gives rise; the most important of which, perhaps, is the intimate relation between existing currency systems and the rise of prices. Future ages will laugh at their forefathers of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, who gravely bought gold to imprison in dungeons in the belief that they were thereby obeying a high economic law and increasing the wealth and prosperity of the world. PS Jay, I have been working with people like josh greer and james cameron and LG electronics to bring to the masses the world of Stereo3D, I was not able to trade gold back and forth or click on buttons like you. Too many conferences and business meetings. Come to the CES in vegas next month and look at some real technology that is going to change our world, you could have been part of that up close and personal, but I guess the time you spent in the backyard digging holes was a better choice :( Unreal Tournament in stereo3D on a projection screen is so much more fun than that flat 2D experience you have now. www.mtbs3d.com Stereo3D NFS Shift with Habib Zargarpour, I was there making history, not digging holes for gold, please forgive me Jay Chen for having priorities that do real things for this world.