"Jay has nothing to gain by spreading information as he does. "
LOL! BWAHAHA! God what a sucker you are, Jay has often admitted that his future and coconuts college is totally dependent upon Gold going up in price, if he doesn't get suckers like you to buy into his meme, he is sunk with all those holes he dug in his backyard with shiny metal in them.
"Whether you think his message is right or wrong, I don't believe it is possible to assign some sort of nefarious purpose to him."
Let me repeat it again, after the cyanide kills the fish and children of the indigenous people, Jay is hoping the PRICE of gold will go up tremendously in the future because he has sold suckers like YOU on his meme to HOARD shiny metal for no real good reason - even the historical reasons he is trying to sell you that meme is a lie from all my readings. In the short read by Innes - what specifically do you disagree with - attack the message - not the messenger, don't be a hypocrite. He goes into the falsehoods of why people think shiny metal has been the king of finance over 5000 years - god I cannot believe how lazy you and Klaser are and instead of attacking the history and the information your knee jerk reaction is to trash me, how intellectually lazy of you! You are a good yes man little grasshopper.
" I believe him when he says he spreads his gospel for the benefit of all,"
BWAHAHA! LOL! Except those people dying from the cyanide from the heap leaching around the gold mines eh? You dumbass!
"Jay and the rest of us are tiny fish in a huge ocean. "
I was walking on the beach with my preacher once and a bunch of starfish had washed up and were dying for whatever reason, he picked some up and threw them back into the sea, I said why - you can't save them all - there must be millions starfish dying here - he said yah but not that one I just threw back. You shouldn't be so defeatist in your thinking - wake up!
"And what about the income generated for dirt poor miners who would otherwise be unemployed and unable to provide for their families? What would you offer them in exchange for their livelihoods? High tech video games? "
You read my mind, I support negroponte and the one laptop per child world, you don't? Look at the logic you are trying to get me to accept, there are only so many trees on easter island, and the last few guys sawing down the last few trees are still currently feeding thier family, and you are saying we can't ask them to stop, thier families will starve. However in the long term, what you want me to accept will be the destruction of the whole society, try to think in larger time frames over a bigger macro scale. I know that is hard but try. The miners could be taught to farm the land to feed thier family and thier kids taught to farm it too instead of excavating it for a few gold molecules that will go into a hole in the ground in Chen's backyard.
"But the criticism suffers from the same problem inherent in elmat's arguments when he suggests the US is a gun-crazy, utterly violent society, namely, the pot calling the kettle black."
I haven't had one drugged out pot head pull a gun on me or beat me up yet!
"The social, cultural and environmental damage caused by increasingly sophisticated high tech toys is not to be sneezed at."
You are a bunch of intellectual lightweights, if you really wanted to slam me good you could have said But Shades - all those computers and technology you preach - they use gold in the connectors and memory chips and such - come on - make it a good discussion (snicker) But yes I agree, we all need to stop thinking about the next ever deflating dollar and try to be more mindful of the choices and actions we take.
"One can argue that increasingly obese children and their obese and soon to be diabetic parents whose ideas of fun is to gobble pizza and high fructose corn syrup infused Coke while sitting on a sofa playing video games for hours on end is huge tax on our health care system for which the developers of these games are to some measure responsible."
Wil Wright, he made the sims and spore, he told me personally that he was a crack dealer and it kept him up thinking about the drug addiction he was selling the masses - LOL! Even worse, I have put a lot of personal time, energy and money into stereo3D to make "the matrix" come even faster where we all will do even less physical activity than we do now, I ride my stationary recumbent bicycle at least 20 minutes a day while I play Zelda. Giving up those butterfingers is hard though!
"Don't the designers and manufacturers of these devices have some responsibility to keep jobs in the US? "
I lost many jobs and just another one recently to cheaper asian workers.
"And what about the environmental costs of all the high tech equipment which is eventually discarded? Where do the mountains of discarded plastic and toxic material end up? I daresay that high tech 'industry' is responsible for more environmental problems than gold mining. "
Absolutely they are both problems, but 2 wrongs don't make a right, perhaps you are correct though and I need to just throw caution in the wind, suck down my hamburger and drink my coke in the plastic bottle and bury some gold in my backyard while I buy a new TV every 6 months and a new computer every 3, why try to fight the inevitable.
"As to elmat, he did what the market forced him to do."
The mad crowd MUST NOT PREVAIL, sometimes the market is too short sighted and takes all the lemmings over the cliff - your comments above on the toxic material and gold mines are but a few examples - we need more long term thinking and planning on this planet. Liquidity fetishes and consumption demands will be the death of us all, I saw this movie WALL E - I agree with its conclusion.
" After insulting the posters on his thread,"
RIGHT - HIS THREAD - HIS - His sweat and work and tears - HIS - not yours, not mine - HIS! I took great joy in getting the boot from elmat because i pushed one of HIS hot buttons in HIS THREAD, not yours, not the markets, the MAD CROWD MUST NOT PREVAIL or we are all DOOMED! If someone didn't like what el mat did they could go make thier OWN THREAD - too fuggn lazy to do that, easy to bitch and whine like a real welfare sheeple and get EL mats THREAD - HIS THREAD taken from him than go do some real work and get another thread started - disgusting what you all have done to El mat and HIS thread. Ayn Rand warned me about the vampires like that who kill the el mats because they are lazy.
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Here someone just sent me this story about an Ant, sadly here in REAL LIFE El Mat was the ANT and got kicked to the curb, the story is not a fantasy!
" banning on stupid whims, etc., caused mostly by posting under the influence,"
But it was HIS THREAD, who da fuck are U - go make your own thread - that was HISN!
" he found out during Jay's brief absence that very few were interested in his Larouchian rants, racism, and trivialities."
I Loved them, I loved pushing his hot buttons and getting the boot, MQ must have loved it too because he did it often as well, you do not speak for what I love and hate - who da fuck are U John Galt? That was EL MATS thread! You fuggn socialist (snicker)
" If he wanted the board to survive, he had to give up as moderator. Simple as that."
LOL! What you consider survival I consider armageddon. It already DIED when EL MAT's thread was took from him. We don't need to complain about the problems in the real world, we got enough right here with EL MAT's hard labor and work being stripped from him by a bunch of whiny complainers who are lazy - what was so bad about letting el mat keep his thread and if it died so be it and going and starting your own thread somewhere else - are people that fuggn lazy they couldn't update thier favorite bookmarks to point to a NEW thread instead of el mats - do you see how bad HABIT and Behavioral Economics have played into the decision to boot El Mat from HIS THREAD - pathetic!
"Why don't you prevail on elmat to start another board, where he is lord and master, where he can go on and on about Brazil, Larouchian politics, and ban anyone who dares challenge him with impunity? "
FUCK THAT! That was EL MATS thread, he worked his back and sweated for years for HIS BABY! WHo da fuck are YOU to tell him to go start another thread, what was wrong with all you whining socialists communist welfare state scumbags going somewhere else? God the collective lot of you are LAZY LAZY LAZY! You don't even SEE what you have done while preaching gold bug memes and ayn rand and john galt and the self made man to my ass, you are all FUCKING HYPOCRITES! WAKE UP!
"I am certain it would be the cyber equivalent of a ghost town but at least you and him could co-exist in perfect harmony."
Whatever it was, it was HIS, from his sweat and tears and alcohol consumption, not yours or jay's or anyones - MY GOD you all should be ASHAMED - go flick your gold coin in your hand while reading that old copy of Atlas Shrugged and think about what you have done to EL MAT stealing his WORK and HIS THREAD YOU SOCIALIST BASTARDZ! |
