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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (272355)12/30/2009 2:30:54 PM
From: SARMAN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
For G-d sakes, take the time to read Richard Goldstone's report. I bet you can read 575 pages in one night.

The report touches on "dehumanization".

G. The impact of dehumanization
1702. As in many conflicts, one of the features of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is the
dehumanization of the other, and of victims in particular. Palestinian psychiatrist Dr Iyad Sarraj
explained the cycle of aggression and victimization through which “the Palestinian in the eyes of
the Israeli soldier is not an equal human being. Sometimes […] even becomes a demon [… ]”
This “culture of demonization and dehumanization” adds to a state of paranoia. “Paranoia has
two sides, the side of victimization, I am a victim of this world, the whole world is against me
and on the other side, I am superior to this world and I can oppress it. This leads to what is called
the arrogance of power.” As Palestinians, “we look in general to the Israelis as demons and that
we can hate them, that what we do is a reaction, and we say that the Israelis can only understand
the language of power. The same thing that we say about the Israelis they say about us, that we
only understand the language of violence or force. There we see the arrogance of power and [the
Israeli] uses it without thinking of humanity at all. In my view we are seeing not only a state of
war but also a state that is cultural and psychological and I hope, I wish that the Israelis would
start, and there are many, many Jews in the world and in Israel that look into themselves, have an
insight that would make them, alleviate the fear that they have because there’s a state of fear in
Israel, in spite of all the power, and that they would start to walk on the road of dealing with the
consequences of their own victimization and to start dealing with the Palestinian as a human
being, a full human being who’s equal in rights with the Israeli and also the other way around,
the Palestinian must deal with himself, must respect himself and respect his own differences in
order to be able to stand before the Israeli also as a full human being with equal rights and
obligations. This is the real road for justice and for peace.”
1703. Israeli college teacher Ofer Shinar offered a similar analysis: “Israeli society’s problem is
that because of the conflict, Israeli society feels itself to be a victim and to a large extent that’s
justified and it’s very difficult for Israeli society to move and to feel that it can also see the other
side and to understand that the other side is also a victim. This I think is the greatest tragedy of
the conflict and it’s terribly difficult to overcome it […] I think that the initiative that you’ve
taken in listening to […] people […] is very important. The message that you’re giving Israeli
society is absolutely unambiguous that you are impartial that you should be able to see that the
feeling of being a victim is something that characterizes both sides. What requires you to take
this responsibility is the fact that you have to understand how difficult it is to get this message
through to Israeli society, how closed the Israeli society is, how difficult it is for Israeli society to
understand that the other side is not just the party which is infringing our own human rights, but
how they are having their human rights infringed, how they are suffering as well.”



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (272355)12/31/2009 1:02:53 AM
From: Garden Rose2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hawk, you sound more and more like the Jihadists, a lot more in common than you realize.