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To: unclewest who wrote (340989)	1/2/2010 9:42:04 AM
From: Hawkmoon	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793882

Happy New Year UW!! What I need to know before I form a complete opinion is how other nations treat these Interpol agents. On it's face, I see no reason they should be granted diplomatic status since they are not representatives of a particular country, but an international organization. Does everyone working for the UN have diplomatic status? NO.. Only the appointed representatives and staff from each member country. Question 1.) Do US Federal Agents normally receive diplomatic status in the course of their duties (reciprocity)? I believe with regard to DEA and FBI, this may be the case. Question 2.) Do other nations already recognize Interpol Agents as having full diplomatic status in their country. Question 3.) Who does Interpol ultimately bear accountability to? Also, some good questions being asked in this article: townhall.com Btw, this is a breakdown of diplomatic benefits recognized here in the US: en.wikipedia.org Hawk

To: unclewest who wrote (340989)	1/2/2010 10:49:32 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793882

The federal government already has a sizable civilian police force. Almost every agency, and certainly the land management agencies like the USFS, the BLM, NPS and F&WS and others already have armed officers. These officers are trained at Quantico and are quite capable of deadly force. Less than a year ago I stood on a mountain with two of them addressing our group. They had big leather belts containing their sidearm with two spare magazines (=almost 50 rounds), handcuffs, a flashlight, and something that was either mace or bear spray. They wore aviator sunglasses and their body language gave the impression that it would be dangerous to mess with them. They may have worn kevlar vests, but I just don't recall. I spent my entire career working for a land management agency and saw no incident that required such an armed police force. There were a couple of murders on federal land I was aware of, which as far as I know were handled by the county sheriff. A few days ago I received an email containing links to several "news" bulletins originating in the UK, in which the claim was made that Obama was preparing for martial law in our country. I put no particular credence on this information, but the fact that somebody felt moved to produce it in any case is telling. One executive order and all these armed officers become part of Obama's civilian defense department, just as well-armed, just as well-funded as the military Defense Department.

To: unclewest who wrote (340989)	1/20/2010 6:10:15 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793882

More on Interpol and O's ExO: Interpol no longer subject to U.S. Constitution onenewsnow.com Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 1/20/2010 5:00:00 AM The head of a civil liberties organization is concerned about an executive order signed by President Obama last month which allows an international law enforcement agency to have jurisdiction in the United States without being subject to the U.S. Constitution. In June 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12425, recognizing the International Criminal Police Organization (Interpol) as an international organization with certain privileges and immunities afforded to diplomats. But Reagan structured his executive order to ensure that Interpol -- like every other law enforcement agency in the United States -- was accountable to the rule of law. John Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, explains that President Obama recently issued a new executive order that amends Reagan's and establishes Interpol as an self-ruling police agency within the U.S. "The president of the United States is creating an autonomous international police force on American soil that's not subject to our Constitution," says Whitehead. "What this means is that Interpol, if they want to -- and we don't know if they will or not -- can do police activities against American citizens; they can investigate American citizens," he continues. "But again, they're not subject to the Constitution. So the entire concept of rule of law breaks down." Whitehead says when the White House issued its amended executive order on December 17, 2009, it issued no press release and thus generated little media attention. The attorney argues that if President George W. Bush had attempted a similar move one week before Christmas, he would have and should have been soundly blasted by the media. Whitehead says even the "normally pro-Obama" American Civil Liberties Union has recently condemned his record on civil liberties.