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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (82082)	1/7/2010 2:16:15 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

,,,the innate knowledge and ability to distinguish between good and evil is an observable fact of human existence. We would have gotten around to discussing this very point ourselves if you had been open enough to share your views. All I can say is; I tried... Ah, I see, hmmm Ah ha ... hmmm ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa haaa haaa ahhh oooh aaahhh haaaaa ... too funny,

To: Greg or e who wrote (82082)	1/7/2010 2:37:15 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

If you would like to degrade the discussion to that level it is a clear indication that you have run out of cogent meaningful argumentation. Greg, the discussion was degraded to meaningless, the moment you refused to consider statements of truth until you could determine some acceptable authority (worldview). It has been degraded to ridiculous from that point by your days and days of trying to justify that agenda. Stop kidding yourself. "Has it it come to that so soon? Christian orthodoxy surrounding these issues we are discussing was established through years and years of thoughtful discussion literally centuries ago. So what? God is eternal, no? "This statement is completely accurate. There is zero misrepresentation in it! Crapola... "There was a great deal more in the quotes, you ignored it. Ask me why I'm not surprised." I do not have the space or time to deal with a virtual bombardment of one line, out of context quotes. But I am happy to deal with them one at a time if you so wish. I'm pretty sure I already know what to expect but do as you wish. Can you summarize the central complaint that God has against Man in that passage? (It's not hard) For what purpose? I have not claimed to be a Biblical Scholar and in fact I am the furthest thing from it. I can say, from my own observations that Religious Scholars are no more likely to have a grasp on what is well and good for human beings than the average Joe, and further that they are just as likely to live a miscreant life as anyone else. Summary: In any event, Paul seems to be pleading with the Romans to give him a chance to preach in their setting, allowing that righteousness in the eyes of God is a spiritual matter of the heart, not of birth right or association with a particular population's allegiances (worldviews). He talks some about how peops have got it all wrong, using their dogmas to excuse the inexcusable and justify the unjustifiable. He is encouraging them to consider and accept the way of Jesus as the only real alternative.

To: Greg or e who wrote (82082)	1/7/2010 5:54:14 PM
From: LLCF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

<in Eastern thought all actions are just part of the world of illusion; and so true and false, good and evil--these two--are categories that fade away when you become one with the one. And so Eastern thought cannot provide the basis for a stable, moral universe. And if your system of thought can’t do that, it cannot survive reality.> <<This statement is completely accurate.>> This one statement (section) could provide ample subject for multiple theological thesis. The idea that this "priest" knows what "becoming one with the one" means seemingly implies he knows the mind of God, on one level... and AT LEAST has been in that state or position. The futher implications are giant leaps of (his, I guess?) faith. He implies HE KNOWS what provides for a "stable, moral, universe"!! Again, implying he knows the mind of God! Blasphemy, even in religious circles... at best. You seem to dig up lot's of bigotry. < He then goes on to point out that humans can't live that way because the innate knowledge and ability to distinguish between good and evil is an observable fact of human existence.> Ummmm,so when you become one with God you lose the ability to distinguish good from evil... yea. You know what Greg, I hate to break the news, but this guy hasn't read ANYTHING by St. Francis or others of his ilk... none of the other mystical Christian writings, nothing. DAK