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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (106207)	1/7/2010 9:23:14 PM
From: roguedolphin	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

The Politics Of Fear... Message 26228672 From: SliderOnTheBlack 1/7/2010 8:22:01 PM of 20627 The Politics Of Fear... Given what is unfolding in the world today, here's an interesting documentary that you should watch . It's called "The Power Of Nightmares" and it was written and produced by Adam Curtis for the BBC. It was released in 2005, so it won't answer all of your questions about the war on terror today, but what it will do, is supply you with a truthful foundation about the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, as well as it's sister, Straussian Neo Conservatism. This is a 3 part documentary and I highly recommend it. One day soon, many of these resources will no longer be available on the internet. If you haven't done so, go to Best Buy, or your favorite electronics store and buy yourself a 500GB, or a 1 TB portable hard drive, and start building your library. You can watch, and download "The Power Of Nightmares" from the link below: archive.org Part I - "Baby It's Cold Outside" Part II - "The Phantom Victory" Part III - "Shadows In The Cave" Here's producer Adam Curtis' introduction from the BBC's website. news.bbc.co.uk "In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares. The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares. In a new series, the Power of Nightmares explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion. It is a myth that has spread unquestioned through politics, the security services and the international media. At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neo-conservatives and the radical Islamists. Both were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. These two groups have changed the world but not in the way either intended. Together they created today's nightmare vision of an organised terror network. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. Those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. The rise of the politics of fear begins in 1949 with two men whose radical ideas would inspire the attack of 9/11 and influence the neo-conservative movement that dominates Washington. Both these men believed that modern liberal freedoms were eroding the bonds that held society together. The two movements they inspired set out, in their different ways, to rescue their societies from this decay. But in an age of growing disillusion with politics, the neo-conservatives turned to fear in order to pursue their vision. They would create a hidden network of evil run by the Soviet Union that only they could see. The Islamists were faced by the refusal of the masses to follow their dream and began to turn to terror to force the people to "see the truth." --------- SOTB

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (106207)	1/8/2010 1:48:50 AM
From: Little Joe	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116555

The more I listen to this argument, the more convinced I become that the religious component is just not well understood. There are many groups and countries that have reason to dislike America. The American Indians, Mexico, Spain, Russia, etc. While some have been our enemies, none seem to have the visceral hatred displayed by the Muslims and I can think of no other significant group in modern times that expresses its hatred in religions terms and in such an extreme manner. Certainly, if they were as powerful as America is, or at least used to be, the world would be a much different place. It is not inconceivable to me at all after observing this for many years, that if they were the world superpower, we would have Sharia law all over the world. Also, I am becoming convinced that it is not a small minority of Muslims who think this way, a large minority, maybe, but not a small minority. lj

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (106207)	1/11/2010 1:55:00 AM
From: Proud Deplorable	2 Recommendations Respond to of 116555

"Yeah.. you won't be until you happen to be on the same plane as one of their suicide bombers." Do you mean the underwear bomber LOLOL? Do you mean Chertoff's suicide bomber LOLOLOL. You know who I mean, the same Homeland Security Chertoff that stands to make a fortune on the scanners now being installed. Not only did wassisname get on board with a lighter or matches (great security) but he was wearing women's panties. He was escorted on without a passport and filmed for half an hour by someone 4 rows in front of him but we can't see the video nor can anyone interview other passengers. Don't you know that a flame cannot ignite that kind of explosive? A blasting cap is needed but whoever put him up to this scam didn't want a real explosion. The guy with the panties didn't want to blow up the plane or he would have gone into the bathroom where no one could see what he was doing but instead he makes a scene in front of everyone. Then the blame starts. A major episode of homegrown terror is needed so CNN can blame Yemen, rally the 'useful idiots' into a state of blind indignancy so the US can invade them as well and carry out their murderous activities that they have been engaged in for years but now need to bring up to a higher level. Stop picking on Islam. The real terrorists are in Washington and Tel Aviv