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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (40323)	1/8/2010 3:05:58 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

What a hoot. Thanks for the laugh. It is more like five parties stuffed into one. You have the socialist nutroots like Obama, Pelosi, Hillary et al. There are the liberal democrats like Blanche Lincoln. You have the liberal Republicans like McCain. There are the moderates like Tom Coburn and Sarah Palin. Somewhere there might be a few rightwingers but they don't have any national representation.

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (40323)	1/11/2010 6:41:45 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71588

If your looking for coherent ideological and interest groups within the two big parties you'd have to break it up to more than 2 each. (The groups overlap, you can be in more than one) Republicans would have 1 - Free market supporters. 2 - Big business and their supporters 3 - Small business and their supporters 4 - Religious/social conservatives 5 - Supporters of a strong active military (supported Iraq and Afghanistan, may think we should do something militarily about Iran, or Yemen, or Pakistan) 6 - Those who don't want the US involved in foreign wars, but who aren't pacifists or socialists or blame American types. Most particularly the "paleoconservatives" who also tend to belong in the next group. 7 - Anti-immigration. (The idea comes from the left as well, as a way to support labor interests.) 8 - "Law and Order" types 9 - 2nd Amendment supporters 11 - Subsidiarity/federalism/states rights supporters 12 - Constitutional originalists (connected to the last two, but they have supporters for other reasons as well) Probably others, but I don't want to spend more time thinking about it now. I separate business supporters from free market supporters, because government bail outs or special advantages to business are not examples of the free market in operation. I separate big and small business supporters because the local chamber of commerce types are not necessarily pulling for the large companies. Perhaps I should even drop the big business category, not that there are not Republicans who support big business, its just that it isn't really specifically tied to Republicans, while the small business owners and those with similar ideas and interests probably do line up relatively strongly behind the Republican party. I'll leave it to someone else to try to break down the Democratic Party.