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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (82136)	1/12/2010 4:06:42 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

>>>You are every bit the fundamentalist that you accuse others of being "How am I fundamentalist Greg..." >>>That's a topic all on it's own. -------------- I didn't think you would man up on that one and I was right. You make mistakes, make stuff up, misrepresent what I post then refuse to take responsibility for your actions when you get caught. "Why don't you ask yourself that question and I'll let you think about it for a bit." Now you are implying there is more to it, something deep seated and insideous perhaps who knows. You certainly didn't mean it as a compliment. You made the allegation, which is why I asked you to back it up. I don't need to ask myself anything, I know it was simple trash talk coming from you. You didn't answer that question because you made a false allegation and you are to small to admit it, even when you get caught cold. And you ignored the rest of the question(s): >>>"When have I ever accused others (plural?) or even one person of being a fundamentalist Greg? What's up with that???" You can't answer a question as simple as that because you are a fake, hiding behind the morality of religion, with no personal honor of your own, and I'm personally getting a little tired of your childish antics.

To: Greg or e who wrote (82136)	1/12/2010 4:46:58 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Your presentation was filled with factual errors" Filled… What are you talking about. If I made a mistake I would like to know about it but that characterisation just seems wrong and deliberately so right on the surface. >>If I said the Christian doctrine focuses, even requires devotes to consider as central to the religion a ceremony where virtual blood and flesh are consumed, I would not be wrong. … What error: Christian doctrine does not consider the ceremony of the last supper with drinking Jesus’ blood and eating his flesh to be central to the religion? >>If I then demonstrated how Christians have been at the center of bloodletting and violence of the flesh the world over, even annihilating large groups of people to near extinction, from manifest destiny in the Americas, to torturous inquisitions in Spain, I would not be wrong. What error do you see in that historical fact? >>>I could focus on how Christian doctrine has cannibalistic scripture What error: Communion is not meant to literally encourage cannibalism but this was an example of where something may be factually true, but can be used to draw inaccurate conclusions about a people … as Duncan did. >>>and their history is replete with extremes of genocidal destruction. What factual errors: (The history of Moses, Joshua, and in modern times Manifest Destiny are examples.). >>>If I pointed out that even today the most unsafe country, not at war, in the world is the Christian country USA, I would be correct. What factual errors: I provided the data and links to sources that support that statement. According to United States Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, there were overall 191,670 victims of rape or sexual assault reported in 2005.[58] Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992).[59] 1 of 6 U.S. women has experienced an attempted or completed rape. en.wikipedia.org Assaults, Murders? Guess who is at the top of the list. USRank Countries Amount # 1 United States: 2,238,480 SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention) nationmaster.com >>>And of course there are the scriptures the other people here have presented on that subject. What error: I was referring to the scriptures about Moses, Lot etc that have been presented on to you on these threads, like at ‘Should God Be Replaced’ in the past. Then in conclusion, I explain how representing Christianity or Christians as individuals or a group as “foolish, moral-less, full of hate, and as lasciviously violent as the people, based on such selective information would be wrong. Anyone could do that to a group, it’s not hard, it is what Duncan did and it is what you continue to support. That was the point of the presentation and the only point. For you to suggest I feel that way about Christians or have presented a case for representing Christians that way, is simply dishonest on your part. I’m getting really sick of seeing you twist things backward that way greg. >>> If after presenting all of that, I conclude that Christians are a bloodthirsty and carnal lusting people, prone to violent and lascivious behavior, I would have the doctrine and history of Christian people to support my claim. Then, if I claimed that anyone not agreeing to bow to my pulpit would have been proven themselves to be foolish, moral-less, full of hate, and as lasciviously violent as the people I just described, I would be as guilty as your preacher of creating a straw man to get people to submit to my coercive authority. But I wouldn't do that because I think it is bigoted, hateful, and wrong. Who, in their right mind, would do such a thing? And there in lies the irony behind what you religionists do.