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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Road Walker who wrote (13029)	1/13/2010 6:21:49 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

The current bills are really playing around the edges of the system, going nowhere near the heart of the system. If you're going to do it, then do it. Playing around the edges and making a big mess is inexcusable IMO.

To: Road Walker who wrote (13029)	1/13/2010 11:23:48 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Not slightly more, this is a fairly big step. In a sense its no really new, its continuing the previous trend, and while it casts a wider net than Medicare and Medicaid did (esp. in their early days), its less of a total takeover (at least than the combination of those two), since for those involved (essentially everyone, or at least those not covered by Medicare or Medicaid), the control is weaker. But, of course, this comes on top of those programs (an the VA system, and SCHIP, and other regulations or programs), so it winds up being a really extensive total package.

To: Road Walker who wrote (13029)	1/13/2010 7:19:37 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Insurance is already regulated to the hilt by the states. The current bills are really playing around the edges of the system, going nowhere near the heart of the system. Precisely. Few people realise how deeply our present system is molded by government demands and regulations. Private insurers are run mostly by the states; Medicare is the overall overlord run by Washington... everyone working in the system is jumping through the hoops in order to get paid. I think the original idea of the reform was to go more or less fully socialized. This didn't work out. Gradually, it drifted into becoming a fight to pass ANYTHING... in order to avoid looking like a political failure.