To: one_less who wrote (82178 ) 1/16/2010 4:47:59 AM From: Solon Respond to of 82486 "human nature is bound to the morality of right and wrong " NONSENSE! The human intellect is cultured to a language of proper and improper behavior but it is different in every tribe!"(Ought)The nature of Human Beings is bound in the morality of right and wrong and so there is an 'ought to' aspect of what we choose to do." You are being fanciful! Throughout history your so-called "OUGHT" has been defined by the tribe and the place and the circumstance. You "ought" to worship Allah or you "ought" to worship Yahweh, or you "ought" to take a black slave or you "ought" to follow Hitler or you "ought to take a male lover (ancient Greece), or you "ought" to deny women the vote (they are not fully human)--ancient North America circa 1900's. You talk as though "ought" was some platonic form. Let us not get silly. The "oughts" change from year to year, from country to country, from family to family, from church to church, from barroom to bedroom, from whore to philosopher, from cop to robber, from ME TO YOU."(Ought)The nature of Human Beings is bound in the morality of right and wrong " Don't be silly! Every day people butcher millions of living creatures to put in trucks and stores and finally in pots and on plates. Nothing "moral" about our slaughtering habits! No more "moral" than a leopard or a badger--just more efficient!"(Ought)The nature of Human Beings is bound in the morality of right and wrong and so there is an 'ought to' aspect of what we choose to do." " Poppycock! What you "ought" to do depends on your tribe, your country, your family, your church, or the last book you read."we all have a sense of what ought to be "Yeah! That is why the world is at continuous war between cultures, races, tribes, countries, religions, and sometimes locusts! If RELIGION can reasonably be said to represent the concept of "ought" then the THOUSANDS of disparate religions must be where you and greg or e get all your "oughts", eh!! Just..."duh, no kidding. " OUGHTS!! LOL!!