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To: RetiredNow who wrote (544401)1/16/2010 6:08:46 PM
From: jlallen3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576825
 
This post of yours is pure nonsense.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (544401)1/16/2010 6:25:32 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576825
 
>> You and many from the GOP have proven that you have hatred for the Democrats.

As a social moderate I would LOVE to be able to support what Democrats are doing. The problem is that you get liberal fiscal policy along with it.

I have in the past supported democratic senators on social issues, but then you get slapped in the face with a Blanche Lincoln supporting a socialist fiscal policy, even though she knows her constituency doesn't want it.

I actually posed the question to Lincoln's point man on health care. His response to me was that the senator knows Arkansans don't want the health care reform bill, but SHE believes it is the best thing. Her function in life is to represent what she reasonably believes to be OUR views. Not what SHE believes is the "best thing". We give that authority to our president but the Senate is to provide a check/balance on the president's actions. She and a substantial number of other senators are going against that responsibility.

It will be a very long time before I support a democrat again. Last time I voted for the f*cking Green Party candidate to keep from supporting Mark Pryor and I intend to put my energy behind getting rid of these Harry Reid, Barack Obama puppets in the future.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (544401)1/16/2010 8:58:31 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576825
 
I adamantly oppose liberals and think they're hurting the country. Most of them are Democrats. On the other hand, my parents and whole family have voted Democrat until very recently. Liberals took over that party back in the '70's and many Democrats don't realize that.

You are unrelenting in your criticism of everything Obama and the Dems do, even when Bush did the same things and you praised Bush for it.

I'll refer you to this post where I post an article showing "OBAMA is continuing essentially without change 8 of 11 BUSH national security policy elements (generally reversing hiw own campaign promises in doing so)."

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Your love of oil is just one of those issues.

I don't "love" oil. I appreciate it as a good fuel source. You're projecting from yourself - you base your energy posts on emotions.

....thankfully, Americans put an end to the GOP running this country.

You've got another year of being able to say that. Republicans winning governorships in VA and NJ despite Obama's support for the Democrat candidates, the increasingly likely win of Ted Kennedy's Senate seat by a Republican, Obama's and Democrats plunging poll numbers, etc are a sign Democrats will hold power for an even shorter period than Republicans did.

Obama has pumped over $80B into renewable energy

Actually he hasn't. Read my post of an article from Foreign Policy magazine on "The End of Magical Climate Thinking".

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Steven CHU came to Washington expecting to manage a massive expansion of energy R&D. CHU had cut his teeth as a research scientist at the justly famed U.S. government-funded Bell Labs, which he saw as a model because they were responsible for inventing or developing a range of devices now part of the fabric of American life, from fax machines to TV transmission, radio astronomy, solar panel cells, the transistor, calculators, cell phones, Wi-Fi, and hundreds of other technological miracles.
CHU had never bought the idea that, in Al Gore's words, "we have all the technology we need" to solve the climate problem. Instead, he told the New York Times that Nobel-caliber breakthroughs are required in chemistry, physics, and biology to make more efficient batteries, solar panels, and biofuels that can compete with fossil fuels in price, and that nuclear power is needed to displace coal.

Its the failure to admit this that constitues "magical thinking". Loons like you insist that solar or wind and battery technology is ready to replace the hated fossil fuels and nuclear now or will be very very soon .... Chu knows better than this - something I didn't know about Chu till I read this article.

Unfortunately, his view hasn't shaped the actions of the administration or Democrats in Congress. By early spring it was clear that Democratic leaders on the House and Senate budget committees were not inclined to honor the president's request for a dramatic scale-up of federal clean energy R&D and that the White House was not inclined to fight for it. And with greens and establishment Democrats fully lost in the magical idea that we can achieve massive emissions reductions through conservation, efficiency, and existing renewable technologies, there was scarcely any constituency inside the Beltway for the kind of big energy-technology program that CHU had hoped to launch.
Incumbent energy interests were happy to indulge the magical thinking by green groups and Democrats, who have been certain since Jimmy Carter's administration that solar and wind are on the verge of becoming economically competitive with coal and oil. And so a deal was cut by green groups, coal utilities, and Reps. Henry Waxman and Ed Markey, who co-authored the legislation. Energy firms could purchase offsets rather than reduce their emissions for a far-off target date.
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The green giants in Washington -- the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF), the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), and the Center for American Progress (CAP) -- claimed that cap and trade would constitute a breakthrough, and CHU dutifully defended the legislation, expecting it would include his $15 billion for R&D.

But Waxman and Markey ended up using virtually all of the money raised from carbon auctions to buy off fossil fuel interests, leaving virtually nothing for technology innovation. Believing that a carbon price -- any carbon price -- would work as a quasi-mystical "price signal" on the market, ushering in a world of solar farms and electric cars, they stiffed CHU.

In the end, Waxman-Markey would give R&D $1.1 billion a year, less than a third of current levels, and would give coal and utility companies $32 billion.
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Did you get the above, Mindmelt? Obama and the Democrats intend to spend LESS on basic R&D than is being spent now. More than A THIRD LESS!

He has unmuzzled the EPA from the restrictive Cheney/Bush days, so that they can move on climate change based on the hard science

Thats right, they'll harass fossil fuel industries - slowing up the granting of leases for domestic energy production, regulating everything that puts out the evil carbon molecule.

He has driven up government investments in R&D through the NSF and NIH, which are primary ways our gov't helps boost long term breakthroughs in science and tech within the US.

He and Congress intend to cut such basic R&D by 2/3. You don't care. You're blinded by your hatred.

He has done an enormous amount to heal the prestige and moral standing of this country among other developed nations, since he took office, after Bush dragged us through the mud for 8 years.

He's offended allies and sucked up to enemies, bowed to kings, and generally behaved arrogantly abroad as at home.