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To: RetiredNow who wrote (544598)	1/17/2010 11:29:36 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576229

>Calling an American a communist or socialist simply because they have different solutions to the problems this country faces is hatred, not healthy debate. They did it with desegregation (and many other things), as well. -Z

To: RetiredNow who wrote (544598)	1/18/2010 8:02:27 AM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576229

You give the GOP too much credit - if liberal Dems are considered anti-American you should give the credit to people like this: The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win." -- Michael Moore In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will tell you – there has never been an army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq. -- Seymour Hersh General Petraeus or General Betray Us? ...Today, before Congress and the American people, General Petraeus is likely to become General Betray Us. -- MoveOn Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform....We pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?...[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary -- oops sorry, volunteer -- force that thinks it is doing the dirty work. -- The Washington Post's William Arkin The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God dmn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God dmn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God dmn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme. Jeremiah Wright "It's about time that we have an intifada in this country that changes fundamentally the political dynamics in here. And we know every -- They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical -- well, you haven't seen radicalism yet." -- U.C. Berkeley Lecturer Hatem Bazian fires up the crowd at an anti-war rally by calling for an American intifada The President wants to talk about a terrorist named bin Laden. I don't want to talk about bin Laden. I want to talk about a terrorist called Christopher Columbus. I want to talk about a terrorist called George Washington. I want to talk about a terrorist called Rudy Giuliani. The real terrorists have always been the United Snakes of America. -- Malik Zulu Shabazz I have a good news to report; Glen Beck appears closer to suicide - I'm hoping that he does it on camera; suicide is rampant in his family, and given his alcoholism and his tendencies towards self-destruction, I am only hoping that when Glen Beck does put a gun to his head and pulls the trigger, that it will be on television, because somebody will capture it on YouTube and it will be the most popular video for months. -- Mike Malloy Look what happened with regard to our invasion into Afghanistan, how we apparently intentionally let bin Laden get away. That was done by the previous administration because they knew very well that if they would capture al Qaeda, there would be no justification for an invasion in Iraq. There’s no question that the leader of the military operations of the U.S. called back our military, called them back from going after the head of al Qaeda. -- Congressman Maurice Hinchey I do believe that it's the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7 -- building 7, which collapsed in on itself -- it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes -- 7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible. -- Rosie O'Donnell talks Trutherism The entire country may disagree with me, but I don't understand the necessity for patriotism. Why do you have to be a patriot? About what? This land is our land? Why? You can like where you live and like your life, but as for loving the whole country… I don't see why people care about patriotism. -- Natalie Maines America has been killing people on this continent since it was started. This country is not worth dying for... -- Cindy Sheehan Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda -- worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was. -- MSNBC's Keith Olbermann Message 26251366 Calling an American a communist or socialist simply because they have different solutions to the problems this country faces is hatred, not healthy debate.* If someone's solutions are socialistic and are administered by people who SAY they're communist (Van Jones, for example), who hold up Mao Tse Tung as a hero .... well, gee, who should you blame for them being called socialist?

To: RetiredNow who wrote (544598)	1/20/2010 3:18:15 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1576229

The real hatred is coming from the GOP. Look at the past several years. Hatred was oozing from the Democrats. For ever "Obama is a socialist" (or sometimes fascist), there were at least several "Bush is a fascist", or "Bush is a nazi" (despite the former, while not true at least for strong sense of those words, being closer to reality). For every "Chairman Maobama" or something similar, there where dozens, maybe hundreds of "Bushitler" and the like. And yes I have heard of Obama fans calling for the lynching of Palin, or other Dems calling for something similar to Bush (and far more often than similar statements from Republicans). The hatred was intense and still is. You have some very good reasons to be disappointed in the GOP; starting with, but not limited to the big one, that spending was allowed to fly out of control when the Republicans had the white house and congress, and deficits where too high as well. You talk about the Republicans going back to center-right, but really their problems aren't for the most part ideological, they didn't on most issues go to some extreme conservative position. What they did was get fat and happy on the perks of power, until it caused them to lose power. They where arrogant, and sometimes corrupt, and they paid the price. But Bush has been gone for a year, and the Republican majority in congress for three. As the Democrats have taken power few of the excesses of the Republicans have gotten better, in fact the big ones have gotten worse, while the Dems add their own excesses. You have the same arrogance and corruption, and even more spending and trying to railroad major changes through on party-line votes.