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To: epicure who wrote (128869)	1/21/2010 9:48:23 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541962

You obviously haven't heard the people whining and ringing their hands about "socialized medicine" I have. I've been one of them. But opposing socialized medicine is not the same thing as opposing help for those who are unable to get insurance. You're conflating the objective and the design. It's the socialized medicine approach to helping those who are unable to get insurance that has been challenged. The help, itself, not so much. You could easily find a majority in both houses to support helping. especially ironic coming from the old folks who are actually receiving socialized medicine, and don't seem all that anxious to give it up... I'm an old folk on Medicare only because the government gives me no choice. I'd love to have a realistic opportunity to give it up. I recognize the phenomenon that you are addressing but you are over-simplifying it. Had the proposed legislation been "de minimis" it would have been seen as a give away to the poor, and therefor vulnerable Perhaps. But less so if it were framed as consumer reform and focused on those who are excluded not by poverty but by employment or pre-conditions. The opposition has already debunked that 40 million number of uninsured that still gets thrown around and overcounts the poor so they could hardly turn it into a give-away for the poor with a straight face unless the proponents were stupid enough to frame it that way on their own.