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To: epicure who wrote (128874)1/21/2010 10:14:09 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541977
 
We'll never agree on this.
I think if you separate out programs aimed solely at the poor you have real problems making them sustainable, or getting them passed at all.


We are not disagreeing on the feasibility of enacting programs for the poor. Our disagreement is about whether or not helping the uninsured is predominantly a poverty program. I say it's not. Not unless its proponents foolishly choose to frame it that way.

The poor in that disreputable number of claimed uninsured are mostly already eligible for Medicaid. If you set them aside (or limit your attention to them to an effort to get them signed up) then you have a different kind of initiative, those who are between jobs or have pre-conditions or are mistreated by their insurance companies, a scenario to which the vast majority can relate and would support.

I don't see many people who want to give up medicare. Most people seem pretty happy with it.

I don't disagree. I'm simply suggesting that you're over-generalizing.

So you'd like to pay more, and do it on your own?

I'd like to maintain the insurance status I had before I turned 65. Now I am limited in what medical providers I can use and concerned that the ones that do service me are inadequately compensated. And for this I pay a premium? No, thanks.

Maybe you are an exception, and you actually paid full price for what you're getting- but I doubt it.

Medicare law prohibits providers from billing me or my secondary insurance for more than the Medicare authorized amount. There are only very limited circumstances in which I am allowed by law to "pay full price." Most people either don't understand how the system works or are only concerned with what comes out of their pockets so they are quite happy, for now. That can't last.