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To: Garden Rose who wrote (273185)	1/22/2010 10:54:19 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

However, all countries of the world consider Israel's occupation as ILLEGAL, Isn't this the same group that gave a bunch of airplane hijacking PLO terrorists "observer status" at the UN, yet has historically denied Israel the right to sit on any UN committees? jewishvirtuallibrary.org It was only in 2000 that Israel was finally permitted to sit on the "Western Europe and Others": Every UN member state belongs to one of the five regional groups. Geographically, Israel should be part of the Asian bloc, but Arab states such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia have successfully prevented Israel's inclusion. A breakthrough in Israel’s fifty-year exclusion from UN bodies occurred on May 30, 2000, when Israel accepted an invitation to become a temporary member of the Western European and Others (WEOG) regional group. This historic step helped end at least some of the UN’s discriminatory actions against Israel and opened the door to the possibility of Israeli participation in the Security Council. The WEOG is the only regional group which is not purely geographical, but rather geopolitical, namely a group of states that share a Western-Democratic common denominator. WEOG comprises 27 members: all the West European states; and the "others" — Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States. Israel’s membership to the WEOG was initially limited. Israel was not allowed to present candidacies for open seats in any UN body for two years and was not permitted to compete for major UN bodies, such as the Economic and Social Council, for a longer period. Also, Israel agreed it would not seek membership on the UN Security Council through WEOG. In 2003-2004, Israel was successful in presenting candidates for six UN posts. Israel as also twice assumed the rotating chairmanship of WEOG. Israel was originally asked to reapply for membership every four years, but, in 2004, the first time Israel reapplied, it was granted an indefinite extension. Besides these restrictions, Israel is only allowed to participate in WEOG activities in the New York office of the UN. Israel is an observer, but not accorded the rights of a full member in WEOG discussions and consultations at the UN offices in Geneva, Nairobi, Rome and Vienna; therefore, Israel cannot participate in UN talks on human rights, racism and a number of other issues handled in these offices. Israel’s next goal is to gain access to the other UN offices around the world. Thus, the bottom line is that, while the UN does little to NOTHING about requiring the Palestinian and other Arab groups to resolve their differences with Israel PEACEFULLY, they are constantly chastising Israel, whom they won't even recognize as a full-fledged member of the UN (with all rights). Yet, they recognize non-democratic, and often brutal Arab regimes, even going so far as to permit them to sit on Human Rights councils. If I were Israeli, I'd tell the UN to pack sand (politely, of course) and tell them that until they treated my interests more fairly, we'd do what was necessary to defend them ourselves. Hawk

To: Garden Rose who wrote (273185)	1/22/2010 11:43:58 AM
From: Maurice Winn	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The Arabs attacked to conquer. They lost. Israel won. That's the way it has been everywhere for a billion years. Those other countries you mention did the same to acquire their territories. In the modern world, wars of conquest are considered poor form, not good sport. Arabs attacked, they lost. Game over. It was only 30,000 years ago that a bloke left Africa and whose descendants conquered all who had gone before, leaving not a single living specimen. Now that's genocide!! He has 5 billion descendants. Mqurice