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To: Lou Weed who wrote (273221)	1/22/2010 12:50:07 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

My post was in reference to Israel's attack on Egypt and you were previously referring to Jordan joining in the fray. Actually, your post was regarding "aggressor nations" and that you accused Israel of attacking Jordan first. Message 26264748 The facts bare out that it was, in fact, the opposite. Israel went to extraordinary lengths to avoid confrontation with Jordan. As for Egypt and Syria.. when it's plainly obvious that your enemy is "rolling up their sleeves" and getting ready to provoke hostilities, there's nothing to be gained by permitting them to strike first. You don't let your opponent get a free shot at you just to make some kind of moral point. Take your Irish Jew. You guys baited and harassed him. But if one of you had openly threatened to kill him, and then reached into your coat pocket for something, do you think he would have just stood there to find out if you actually had a weapon? We don't even place this kind of burden on our police officers. Egypt flooded soldiers and tanks into the Sinai and told the UN observer force to get out. They blockaded the Straits of Tiran. They publicly stated that the time had come to destroy Israel. How could this be taken as anything other than preparations for starting a war? So don't impose some kind of standard upon Israel that you wouldn't apply to yourselves. Hawk

To: Lou Weed who wrote (273221)	1/22/2010 1:05:04 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

As to who the actual aggressors were in 1967, kindly review this series of quotes in the days leading up to the six-day war: sixdaywar.co.uk “Our forces are now entirely ready not only to repulse any aggression, but to initiate the act ourselves, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland of Palestine. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united. I believe that the time has come to begin a battle of anihilation.”- Syria’s Defence Minister Hafez Assad (later to be Syria’s President). “it is the duty of all of us now to move from defensive positions to offensive positions and enter the battle to liberate the usurped land…Everyone must face the test and enter the battle to the end.” - President Attassi of Syria "The existence of Israel has continued too long. We welcome the Israeli aggression. We welcome the battle we have long awaited. The peak hour has come. The battle has come in which we shall destroy Israel." - Cairo Radio “All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel” - Cairo Radio “The Zionist barrack in Palestine is about to collapse and be destroyed. Every one of the hundred million Arabs has been living for the past nineteen years on one hope – to live to see the day Israel is liquidated…There is no life, no peace nor hope for the gangs of Zionism to remain in the occupied land.” “As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel…. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence”. - Cairo Radio’s Voice of the Arabs broadcast Israel [will] not initiate hostilities “...until or unless (Egyptian forces) close the Straits of Tiran to free navigation by Israel” - Prime Minister Levi Eshkol message to France’s President de Gaulle. “Israel would stop at nothing to cancel the blockade. It is essential that President Nasser should not have any illusions.” - Eshkol tells leading maritime powers "Our intention to regard the closing of the Straits as a casus belli was communicated...to the foreign ministers of those states which had supported international navigation in the Straits in 1957 and thereafter. There can be no doubt that these warnings reached Cairo. One thing was now clear. If Nasser imposed a blockade, the explosion would ensue not from 'miscalculation', but from an open-eyed and conscious readiness for war." - Abba Eban [10] Pretty frickin' clear that Israel was doing everything to avoid conflict, but the Arabs were backing them into a corner. Hawk