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To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/22/2010 5:41:30 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577123

"Corporations (and unions) can't VOTE. why should they have a right to SPEAK in a political context?" because they are regulated and taxed by politicians, well at least corporations are. So they have to protect their interests. Why shouldn't they have free speech ?

To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/22/2010 7:27:30 PM
From: TimF	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577123

corporations didn't EXIST when the founders wrote the constitution and the bill of rights. If that was true, how could the founders have thought to exclude them from the 1st amendment protections of free speech? And how having done so could they then include them in the 1st amendment protection of freedom of the press? But they did in fact exist well before the US constitution. --- The Hudson's Bay Company (French: Compagnie de la Baie d'Hudson), abbreviated HBC, is the oldest commercial corporation in North America and one of the oldest in the world. The company was incorporated by British royal charter in 1670 as The Governor and Company of Adventurers of England trading into Hudson's Bay; it is now domiciled in Canada and has adopted the more common shorter name as its legal moniker. en.wikipedia.org The Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie or VOC in Dutch, literally "United East Indian Company") was a chartered company established in 1602, when the States-General of the Netherlands granted it a 21-year monopoly to carry out colonial activities in Asia. en.wikipedia.org Other trade companies of the age of the sail * The British East India Company, founded in 1600 * The Danish East India Company, founded in 1616 * The Dutch West India Company, founded in 1621 * The French East India Company, founded in 1664 * The Ostend Company, founded in 1715 * The Swedish East India Company, founded in 1731 en.wikipedia.org The alleged oldest commercial corporation in the world, the Stora Kopparberg mining community in Falun, Sweden, obtained a charter from King Magnus Eriksson in 1347. en.wikipedia.org

To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/22/2010 7:53:12 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577123

>> Corporations (and unions) can't VOTE. why should they have a right to SPEAK in a political context? The question is, "Why should they NOT?" Corporations under the law, according to Wiki (and which happens, in this instance, to be correct): "Despite not being natural persons, corporations are recognized by the law to have rights and responsibilities like actual people. Corporations can exercise human rights against real individuals and the state,[2] and they may be responsible for human rights violations.[3] Just as they are "born" into existence through its members obtaining a certificate of incorporation, they can "die" when they lose money into insolvency. Corporations can even be convicted of criminal offences, such as fraud and manslaughter.[4]" A corporation is a person, pretty much.

To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/22/2010 8:34:14 PM
From: jlallen	2 Recommendations Respond to of 1577123

I think you are right.....we should shut up the NYT Corp., MSNBC, etc....

To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/22/2010 9:43:46 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1577123

Why should corporations have press freedom?

To: bentway who wrote (545665)	1/23/2010 4:07:29 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577123

>Dillweed, corporations didn't EXIST when the founders wrote the constitution and the bill of rights. Sure they did. And part of our protests were against British corporations. Does the British East India Company ring a bell? -Z