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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (129103)	1/23/2010 4:03:56 PM
From: Cogito	Respond to of 542060

>>I was responding to what I thought were the reasons we are even discussing this subject and that is that government policies are always mindless and always increase costs.<< Ah, well then the solution is simple. Don't allow the government to have any policies at all. - Allen

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (129103)	1/23/2010 5:17:00 PM
From: Jeff Hayden	Respond to of 542060

It's amazing how so many people complain about the government costs in Medicare and SS, while at the same time the doctors complain that they don't make enough from Medicare. My doctor told me he does get paid more by insurance companies, but they burden his partners' office with much more paperwork than does Medicare - thus driving up the cost of his practice for the extra people he needs. He said he would prefer Medicare for all. Social Security? My check arrives on time every month. All I had to do to start it was inform them that I was about to reach 65 years and 6 months. The government isn't pushing a mountain of paper to keep track of me nor pulling my chain to fill out forms every year. That seems about as efficient as it can get. The biggest problem with shutting down the health insurance companies is the loss of paper-pusher jobs - and there are a lot of them in the industry.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (129103)	1/24/2010 7:15:05 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542060

I was responding to what I thought were the reasons we are even discussing this subject and that is that government policies are always mindless and always increase costs. LOL. That's quite a outsized inference to make from what I offered as an example of how Medicare can impact even people who have opted out. My complaints were about loss of choice. "My point was that you cannot fully escape from Medicare even if you opt out." The legal restriction of desirable options is always a big issue with me. You seem to have not only missed the point but distorted it into a strawman that suits your agenda.