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To: Garden Rose who wrote (273305)	1/23/2010 9:03:37 PM
From: Sdgla	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Under international law they are entitled to fight an occupier and that's why they do so. This is the best you can come up with as a response to my post ? How about you ? Do you consider them terrorist organizations ?

To: Garden Rose who wrote (273305)	1/24/2010 4:19:05 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Sdgla, the reason Hamas and Hezbollah exist is because they are fighting Israeli occupation of their lands. No other reason for their existence. This HAMAS Political Representative would disagree with you. He's got a much bigger agenda and he's not afraid to declare it in public: youtube.com He's not just a "nobody". He's an important leader within Hamas, and likely reflects the broader consensus. Al-Astal is one of 132 legislators in the Palestinian Authority. en.wikipedia.org He's also been identified as a member of the militant wing of Hamas: en.wikipedia.org He's also the guy who apparently declared that teaching about the Holocaust to Palestinian students is a "war crime": familysecuritymatters.org And it's not just Al-Astal publicly displaying this militantcy against the ENTIRE WORLD: youtube.com It's pretty clear BY THEIR OWN WORDS that they are not just fighting a "defensive war". HAMAS IS WAGING A WAR OF ANNIHILATION AND RELIGIOUS CONQUEST. You can make all the arguments you want to defend the Palestinian Government and excuse their violence. But their own words inform us that they plan, "Allah Willing", to wage Islamic Jihad upon the entire world. That you cannot refute in any objectively honest manner. Hawk

To: Garden Rose who wrote (273305)	1/24/2010 4:45:10 PM
From: Maurice Winn	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

That's not true: <The international community does not consider Hamas or Hezbollah terrorist organizations but freedom fighters. > If you ask around New Zealand, Oz, China, India, Russia, England [locals, not recent immigrants], Serbia, Greece, Denmark, Holland, you will find the opposite. Of course any Moslem country's bosses and people are inclined to think you are right. In China, they don't think Uighurs are freedom fighters. In Russia, they don't see Chechen terrorists and Islamic Jihadists as freedom fighters. Polonium 210 got rid of Alexander <Litvinenko's funeral reading took place on 7 December at the Central London mosque, > BTW, do you have a religion? Mqurice