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To: energyplay who wrote (60405)	1/25/2010 6:31:45 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217750

my guess is that cyber war is no different from real war, in that populations must be mobilized, budgets drawn up, justified, approved, funded, and politics be tuned friendly for any and all measures conducive it is unclear to me what goog's end-game is, must feel really critical, else they took a big leap, imo, and big leaps are just that, a leap that is big and so we have ft.com China accuses US of using cyberwarfare By Kathrin Hille in Beijing Published: January 24 2010 17:26 \| Last updated: January 24 2010 17:26 China raised the ante at the weekend in an escalating war of words with the US as the ruling Communist party’s mouthpiece accused Washington of employing cyberwarfare. “The US was the first country in the world to introduce the concept of cyberwar; it has introduced and developed a new kind of army, a cyberarmy, and even set up a hacker brigade,” People’s Daily said in a vitriolic editorial. “US intelligence agencies can, through technical means, fully monitor, follow and erase online information harmful to the US’ national interest. It is really ridiculous that under such circumstances, it demands other countries to allow the free flow of information on the net.” EDITOR’S CHOICE Chinese media hit at ‘White House’s Google’ - Jan-20US to tax Chinese steel grating imports - Dec-29Analysis: Copenhagen: G2 is the key to CO2 - Dec-08Opinion: Persuade Beijing to free the renminbi - Dec-07Singh’s visit to ‘consolidate’ US-India ties - Nov-22Analysis: A wary willingness - Nov-19The editorial, published on People’s Daily’s website under the name Wang Xiaoyang, is the latest shot in an exchange of remarks that were triggered by Google’s threat to pull out of China but are escalating into a full-scale dispute over the diverging values of China and the west. It is also a rare example of Beijing handing back the accusation of cyberwarfare to Washington, which regularly lists cyberwarfare from China as one of the main security risks on the rise. People’s Daily also accused Washington of stoking unrest in Iran. “Behind America’s so-called internet freedom is naked political scheming,” it said. “How did the constant chaos after the election in Iran come about? That was a cyberwar initiated by the US, where on Youtube and Twitter, it spread rumours, created splits, provoked and sowed discord between the supporters of the conservative and the reformist factions, engaged in veiled infiltration and instigation which led to large-scale bloody conflict in Iran.” The party newspaper’s more aggressive stance came as the White House weighed into the issue on Friday with a spokesman’s comment that Barack Obama, US president, was “troubled” about cyberattacks on Google which the company alleged had come out of China. Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, had already demanded on Thursday that China carry out a thorough and transparent investigation of the alleged attacks. China’s foreign ministry on Friday rejected the criticism and urged Washington to concentrate on building a stable bilateral relationship. That the sharper tone is now spreading through Beijing’s state media outlets points to the many disagreements in ties with the US and other western countries. Tensions are on the rise again between Beijing and Washington as the US prepares to proceed on a multi-billion US dollar weapons package for Taiwan for which George W.?Bush, then US president, initially approved as early as 2001. The two countries are also at loggerheads over a string of trade disputes. While China’s government keeps emphasising that it seeks peaceful development, does not want to threaten any other nation and hopes to be a responsible member of the international community, this line is sometimes contradicted by rhetoric spread by state media, partly for domestic consumption. Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2010. You may share using our article tools. Please don't cut articles from FT.com and redistribute by email or post to the web.

To: energyplay who wrote (60405)	1/25/2010 7:32:49 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 217750

Is it possible that large parts of the PRC government are unaware of what other parts of their government are doing ? I would bet on it as in local level doing things that the head did not aware of....

To: energyplay who wrote (60405)	1/25/2010 10:50:11 PM
From: TobagoJack	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217750

<<Is it possible that large parts of the PRC government are unaware of what other parts of their government are doing ?>> naturally. mean while, on another continent and within a different domain, where all can know all, and yet know nothing at all, for their own good, as their heads spin and be spun :0) just in in-tray ... The leaks continue apace: The day after Vice Chairman Kohn testified before Congress, it started dawning on the FRBNY that they weren’t going to be able to keep the names of counterparties from Congress. FRBNY staff member James Bergin e-mailed several other FRBNY staff: “I have to think this train is probably going to leave the station soon and we need to focus our efforts on explaining the story as best we can. There were too many people involved in the deals – too many counterparties, too many lawyers and advisors, too many people from AIG – to keep a determined Congress from the information.” 62 Fascinating stuff . . . > ___________ 62 E-mail from James Bergin to Alejandro LaTorre et al, March 6, 2009, BATES #FRBNY-TOWNS-R3-008604. > Source: Public Disclosure As A Last Resort: How the Federal Reserve Fought to Cover Up the Details of the AIG Counterparties Bailout From the American People Special Report U.S. House of Representatives , 111th Congress Committee on Oversight and Government Reform January 25, 2010