To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (60458 ) 1/28/2010 10:19:11 PM From: TobagoJack 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217654 just in in-trayplayer 1: Yeah, but the US doesn't even know how to build a high speed rail. Tampa got a lot of money, as they have the right-of-way issues sorted out and really is "shovel ready." But completely unimpressive (Tampa train avgs. 86 mph vs. Wuhan train avgs. 194 mph): Max speed of 150 mph vs. 245 mph. People are going to drive to downtown Tampa, pay to park, pay for the ticket, and probably not arrive in Orlando any earlier than if they simply packed up the car and drove? (86 miles = 1 hour by train). Right... xyz Business Week: President Obama on Thursday announced $1.25 billion of stimulus funding for a high-speed rail line stretching from Tampa to Orlando -- and he also promised to return to ride the train once it's finished. The initial phase of the plan -- linking downtown Tampa to the Orlando airport -- will be finished in 4 1/2 years if all goes well, said Ed Turanchik, president of the rail advocacy group ConnectUs. The second phase, connecting Orlando to Miami, is subject to funding and could be ready by 2017, said Turanchik. Florida's Tampa-to-Orlando trains will reach a top speed of 150 mph, but average 86 mph. Compare that to the newest one built in China: The first commercial trains left Wuhan and Guangzhou North at 9:00 am on December 26, 2009, and reached their destinations in three hours, compared with ten and a half hours for the previous service. From December 28, 2009, until Guangzhou South Station is opened in late January 2010, 28 passenger train services run on the line daily each way. Of these 28 trains, two run between Wuhan and Changsha South, five run between Changsha South and Guangzhou North, and 21 run between Wuhan and Guangzhou North. Two of the 21 trains are nonstop, covering the 922-km long journey in a scheduled 02h57m (Southbound) or 02h58m (Northbound).This is an average speed of 313 kilometres per hour (194 mph) between stations. Construction work began on June 23, 2005. The line cost approximately CN¥116.6 billion. Xu Fangliang was the general engineer in charge of designing the line. 468 km of the railway line is laid on bridges, and 177 km is in tunnels, totaling 2/3 of the entire length. There are 684 bridges and 226 tunnels along the line. There are eighteen stations on the line. Fourteen of them are opened for passenger service. Guangzhou South station is expected to be opened on January 30, 2010. Lechang East and Yingde West stations are under construction. Wulongquan East is an overtaking station which is not open for service. On December 9, 2009, a train achieved a top speed of 394.2 kilometres per hour (244.9 mph) and took 02h55m to travel from Guangzhou South to Wuhan during a test run