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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Road Walker who wrote (13396)2/11/2010 12:05:09 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
So the risk pool is getting much worse and payouts increasing at the same time that premium revenue is decreasing.

Well, if that's really the case, and it's really bad enough the premiums have to go up that much, I don't see how you can fault Anthem. What else would you have Anthem do? They could restructure their policies, I suppose, if California regulation allows that. Or they could ask for a bailout. What else?

The model seems to be broken... the more they make the premiums less affordable the more worse the risk pool will get which means they have to raise premiums which makes the risk pool worse which ... ... ... ... ...

Maybe the ObamaCare edict that everyone has to have insurance doesn't look so bad???


Yeah, there's a spiral. Not as sure as you that mandatory insurance is the answer, though. It would be a temporary measure. You'd get a one-time infusion of healthy policy holders and that would lower rates. But the cycle would continue, just at a lower level. You're temporizing, that's all. We need long-term solutions.



To: Road Walker who wrote (13396)2/11/2010 9:28:13 PM
From: John Koligman  Respond to of 42652
 
Wellpoint (2.7B profit last quarter) says 'too many healthy people are dropping coverage', so we need that 39% increase. The R's free market working just fine...

Regards,
John

WellPoint insurance hike becomes target for Obama
Feb 11, 6:23 PM (ET)

By TOM MURPHY and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Health insurer WellPoint blames the Great Recession and rising medical costs for its planned 39 percent rate increase for some California customers. To President Barack Obama, however, it's Exhibit A in his campaign to revive the health care overhaul.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who received the company's explanation in a letter Thursday, said "it remains difficult to understand" how premium increases of that size by can be justified when WellPoint Inc. reported a $2.7 billion profit in the last quarter of 2009.

"This is a stark illustration of what the status quo means for American families," said White House spokesman Reid Cherlin. "You'd be hard-pressed to find a better example of why reform is so urgent, and it's going to continue to be part of the case the president makes."

Majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., went further. In a speech on the Senate floor, he attacked WellPoint and other "greedy insurance companies that care more about profits than people."

"They get rich while people who already can barely afford their coverage lose their coverage altogether," Reid said.

Whether it will be enough to re-ignite the sputtering health care legislation, remains uncertain. The Democratic bills are stalled for political and policy reasons unrelated to insurance costs. Democrats in the House can't accept the health care bill that Democrats in the Senate have produced, and vice versa. There are also concerns about the cost of the legislation.

The rate hike shock, however, could help Obama make his case that Republicans need to come to the table on health care. GOP leaders, who want to start talks over from scratch, are going reluctantly to the Feb. 25 health care summit convened by the president.

Brian Sassi, the head of WellPoint's consumer business unit, said in his letter to Sebelius that the weak economy is leading individual insurance buyers who don't have access to group plans to drop coverage or buy cheaper plans. That reduces the premium revenue available to cover claims from sicker customers who are keeping their coverage.

The result was a 2009 loss for the Anthem Blue Cross unit that sells individual policies to people who don't get insurance through their employers, he said. Higher rates for this group, which accounts for about 10 percent of Anthem's eight million customers in California, are needed to cover the shortfall expected from the continuation of that trend, according to the letter.

"When the healthy leave and the sick stay, that is going to dramatically drive up costs," Sassi said in an interview. He declined to specify the size of the unit's loss.

Affected customers can choose plans with lower premiums but higher out-of-pocket costs, he said.

Sassi told Sebelius that insurance costs also continue to rise because medical prices are increasing faster than inflation, and people are using more health care. That use increase is driven by an aging population, new treatments and "more intensive diagnostic testing," he wrote.

Sebelius ordered a federal inquiry earlier this week after the size of proposed premium increases for individual policies was widely publicized. A congressional committee also has asked for information on the increases and requested testimony from WellPoint CEO Angela Braly at a Feb. 24 hearing.

"A lot of companies are hurting in this economy but this California health company isn't one of them," Reid said, citing Wellpoint's profits.

"That's why we need health reform like the bills already passed by the House and Senate that will rein in insurance company abuses and make coverage more affordable for millions of Americans, and provide coverage for some 30 million that have no health insurance," he said.

But Sassi disputed that notion in his letter to Sibelius. He said both the House and Senate bills carve too many loopholes from a requirement that everyone buy health insurance. He said they are also weak on enforcement and set penalties that are too low to ensure compliance.

WellPoint is the largest publicly traded health insurer based on membership and is a dominant player in the individual insurance market in California. Based in Indianapolis, the company runs Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans in 14 states and Unicare plans in several others.

WellPoint's profit for all of 2009 was $4.75 billion, though $2 billion of that came from the sale of a business.

Rates for individual health insurance policies tend to rise much faster than those of employer-sponsored coverage.

The pool of customers is more stable for group health insurance. In the individual market, healthy people are more inclined to drop coverage when they see big price hikes because they don't have employer help paying for it, said Robert Laszewski, a health care consultant and former insurance executive. That leaves behind sicker customers who stay because they still need coverage.

Sassi said as much as one-third of their individual insurance customers leave every year. That volatility can lead to big changes in the mix of people covered and rate swings. Administrative costs also can be higher for individual lines because the insurer has to sell each policy individually instead of to a larger group.

Sassi said a minority of Anthem Blue Cross's 800,000 individual policy holders in California will see rate increases as high as 39 percent. Most premiums will rise around 24 percent when the rates take effect March 1.

The Democratic health care legislation now stuck in Congress is largely aimed at addressing the problems of small businesses and people buying insurance on their own.

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Associated Press reporter Erica Werner in Washington contributed to this report. Alonso-Zaldivar reported from Washington.

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WellPoint's letter: wellpoint.com



To: Road Walker who wrote (13396)2/12/2010 7:55:37 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
From Kaiser Health News:

"WellPoint Inc. faces a firestorm of controversy as the health insurer's massive fourth-quarter profit gains are likely to become the center of attention as it seeks to raise premiums in California," MarketWatch reports. "WellPoint posted a 727.3% gain on its bottom line during the fourth quarter, as net profits jumped to $2.74 billion from $331.4 million in the year-ago period. Its margins catapulted to 18% from 2.2% in 2008's fourth quarter. While the bulk of that 2009 profit gain is a one-time windfall realized from the sale of a subsidiary, it may be difficult to get that point across. WellPoint is up against a rising tide of criticism for its plan to raise premiums at its Anthem Blue Cross of California division 30% to 39%" (Britt, 2/10).