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To: Greg or e who wrote (82376)	2/13/2010 10:32:40 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

thegodmovie.com The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing that Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes

To: Greg or e who wrote (82376)	2/13/2010 5:04:13 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

You: >>>He surely did and those very words are quoted as being said by Jesus in the Bible.>>> Get that? iIt is nonsense to suggest that Jesus did not claim to be the Alpha and the Omega Me: "Really, I didn’t know that. Would you mind posting the chapter and vs where Jesus is quoted using those exact words… “the Alpha and Omega of all reality.” I would prefer that it isn't one where it is not clear whether the statement is referencing the Father or the Son. Or if you are mistaken, a simple apology would suffice." ------------------ You: "You are simply displaying your ignorance of both the bible and Christianity and your request for the exact phrasing is a sad attempt to score more of those cheap points that you seem so fond of. In fact Jesus claimed far more than that He claimed to be the creator of all existence." There is nothing cheap, nonsense-acle, or ignorant about responding to blatant allegations and attacks from you in a logical and specific manner. You've now provided a text from revelations, although you weren't even man enough to admit that, which is not part of the apostolic account of the life and words spoken by Jesus, where Jesus is sometimes directly quoted. It does not justify your attacks on me even if some scholars may want to attribute it to Jesus. In the Old testament and the new the term 'The Lord God' is not used to identify Jesus so it is very out of order to use that one text in that way. People commonly referred to people of higher status as lord and to people of righteous character as Son of God, just as Jesus did reference the righteous as children of our father and evil people as the children of the Devil. Those are facts not debate points. The text you came up with does not specifically reference Jesus directly or indirectly by context, another fact. You really should seek help for what ever it is that makes you lash out at people who engage you in simple discussion. Surely even you recognize it doesn't further your Christian cause don't you?