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To: koan who wrote (549947)2/14/2010 2:30:38 PM
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Koan, I could tell you how the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics failed, but you'd probably blame that on anything but socialism.

There are plenty of flaws in Rand's arguments, but nothing so fundamentally flawed as Chomsky's dream of a socialist utopia.

If you think Sweden and Denmark got to where they are because of socialism, you should try moving there. Just be warned, their immigration policies aren't as lax as ours. Or that of France or Great Britain, for that matter.

Tenchusatsu



To: koan who wrote (549947)2/14/2010 3:24:19 PM
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"YOU mean the free market that just required the fed to rescue by giving banks trillios of dollars to avoid a worldwide depression from a worldwide economic meltdown caused by Wall street unregulated excesses? "

Yeah. That one. It is only because of our free markets that such a thing could happen...



To: koan who wrote (549947)9/21/2020 1:06:00 PM
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"Sweden and Denamrk are doing very well and are very happy and are very socialistic. Everyone in both countries gets free edcuation through univeristy and universal health care and Danes have beed chracterises as the happiest people on earth."

Maybe you and Taco can convince the Swedes to pay your stock market losses and gambling debts...

Sweden: Court rules that employers must pay Muslims for praying on the job

SEPTEMBER 21, 2020 12:00 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

This is more about Islamic supremacism than about the need to pray. It is not an absolute requirement that Islamic prayers must be prayed at the prescribed time. Even at a 2017 conference whining about alleged “Islamophobia” and smearing those who call attention to jihad terror, one Muslim spokesman acknowledged that missed prayers can be made up: “One man asked how an employer is to deal with Muslim employees, given their need for prayer, (Dr. Tabasum Hussein, a panelist who joined the Q and A, answered that ‘We don’t stop fire fighting or surgery to pray. We can make it up later.’)” What is being asserted here is the priority of Islamic requirements over all other considerations. And of course the Swedish court, heedless of the larger implications, grants this point. All of this does not bode well for the ultimate assimilation of Muslims in Swedish society.



“Court decision: Employees have the right to pray to Allah during paid working hours,” translated from “Domstolsbeslut: Anställda har rätt att be till Allah på betald arbetstid,” Samhällsnytt, September 11, 2020 (thanks to 360 View):

Swedish employers must not prevent employees from rolling out a prayer mat in the workplace during working hours and kneeling in prayer to Allah. This is confirmed by the administrative court in Malmö and thus annuls a democratically made decision in the Bromölla City Council on a ban on prayer during working hours. According to the court, that decision is contrary to the religious freedom guaranteed in the Swedish constitution and the European Convention.

It was last year that the Municipal Board in Bromölla decided that “prayer time during paid working hours is not allowed” in the municipality. The issue had been pushed by the Sweden Democrats but also by more religion-friendly Christian Democrats.

The decision, which was religiously neutral in form but primarily prompted by demands for special rights from Muslim workers, was appealed and reported to the Discrimination Ombudsman (DO). The Administrative Court has now concluded that the decision is illegal according to the way in which the court interprets the freedom of religion in the Swedish form of government and the European Convention.

The court therefore annulled the democratically made decision. No employer may deny his employees the right to pray to Allah during paid working hours instead of performing their duties. It is unclear how many interruptions in work an employer must accept, and how long they must be.

It is unclear whether SD and KD will appeal the administrative court’s decision to a higher court. Samhällsnytt has no information on how far in the process the DO has come with the notification of the decision that was submitted there in January this year.



To: koan who wrote (549947)9/21/2020 6:27:39 PM
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Sweden: Journalist arrested for asking if Muslim-owned pharmacies would fairly distribute drugs if supplies limited

SEPTEMBER 21, 2020 2:00 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

This is actually not a “hateful” or unreasonable question. EShaykh.com says that while one may give voluntary alms to non-Muslims, the obligatory alms (zakat) required of all Muslims may be given to Muslims only, for “the verse determining the lawful recipients of zakat (9:60) refers to Muslims exclusively, i.e. those poor and needy are Muslims, as well as the mu’allafat al-qulub i.e. new Muslims….{Alms are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); for those whose hearts have been (recently) reconciled (to Truth); for those in bondage and in debt; in the cause of Allah; and for the wayfarer: (thus is it) ordained by Allah and Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.} [Qur’an] 9:60”

This is not precisely a question of almsgiving, but is closely related: the almsgiving rules that prioritize giving to Muslims at very least open the question of whether Muslim-owned pharmacies would prioritize giving drugs to Muslims if supplies were limited. Just this year, Jihad Watch reported on April 1, and on April 7, and again on April 11, and yet again on April 15, about incidents in which Christians were forced to make the Islamic profession of faith to get food aid. Christians who wanted food aid and to remain Christians were relegated to the back of the line at best.

But in Sweden today, inconvenient truths of this kind must not be enunciated. The mass migration endeavor must not be questioned. And so Ingrid Carlqvist was arrested.



“BREAKING: Swedish Journalist Ingrid Carlqvist Arrested for the ‘Hate Crime’ of Journalism (Exclusive Interview),” by Renee Nal, RAIR Foundation, September 17, 2020:

In the latest installment of a series of RAIR Foundation USA exclusive interviews with Ingrid Carlqvist, the Swedish journalist and author revealed that she and her colleague Maria Celander are being charged with a hate crime by the Swedish government for content posted on their website.

Ingrid Carlqvist and Maria Celander, who were formerly mainstream journalists who now work independently, are being taken to court on November 2, 2020. The pair faces up to two years in prison.

Most of the content on their site consists of OpEds, Ms. Carlqvist explained, but they also publish content submitted by others. About a year ago, a woman contributed an article to the site questioning what would happen if there was a shortage of drugs considering the disproportionate number of Muslim pharmacists in Sweden. The question was based on her knowledge of Islamic law (Sharia), which teaches Muslims to prioritize Muslims. In the case of a drug shortage, would drugs be given to Muslims before others?

Journalists Charged with a Hate Crime

After six months, Ingrid Carlqvist and her colleague were “called to police” in relation to the article. When Ms. Carlqvist noted that they did not even write the post in question, police stated that they published the hypothetical question, and that was enough to charge the pair with a crime. The question posed in the piece, which Ingrid Carlqvist found to be a credible one, was deemed “incitement to ethnic groups, a sort of racism, a hate crime,” she told RAIR. “At first I thought they were just going to drop it, because it’s absolutely crazy. We are journalists, for God’s sake,” she said….

The funny thing about “incitement,” Ingrid Carlqvist explains, is that it can be used to bring charges for virtually anything, anytime someone in a so-called protected group claims to be offended. Although speech is protected in Sweden, police are “most focused” on “hate crimes,” which now can described as speech that offends others. “They let murderers and rapists run loose, but the so-called ‘hate crime’ police – they have the most resources. That is what our government is focusing on…”…




To: koan who wrote (549947)2/3/2023 11:28:08 PM
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"PS, Sweden and Denamrk are doing very well and are very happy and are very socialistic. Everyone in both countries gets free edcuation through univeristy and universal health care and Danes have beed chracterises as the happiest people on earth." koan's stoned and childish drivel...

Pimping For Allah in Sweden

Posted on February 3, 2023 by Baron Bodissey



Islamic law is very strict concerning sexual intercourse: it must not under any circumstances occur outside of marriage. Shi’ite Muslims, however, have devised an ingenious workaround: the “temporary marriage”. A man who is feeling sexually deprived simply pays an imam to perform a marriage between himself and a woman who agrees to the arrangement in return for a (small) cut of the fee. Afterwards, as soon as his caftan is covering his ankles again, he intones Talaq! Talaq! Talaq!, and the divorce is finalized.

Shi’ites in Sweden were recently discovered to be engaging extensively in such temporary marriages, and the Swedish authorities were shocked — shocked! — to learn that such an egregious exploitative practice was occurring in their beloved Folkhemmet.

The following report from the Swedish state broadcaster SVT discusses all this pimping for Allah. The general thrust, as it were, is: Don’t worry — the imams now have an action plan, and everything is under control.

Many thanks to Gary Fouse for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes and RAIR Foundation for the subtitling:

Video link

Below is the accompanying article from SVT, also translated by Gary Fouse:

After revelations about buying sex— Muslim leaders fired

January 30, 2023

Uppdrag Investigation

Shia Muslim leaders have conducted marriages of women purchased by men for casual sex, which Uppdrag [Assignment] revealed in the spring. Now the imams and religious leaders featured in the reportage are gone from their duties. “People have abused temporary marriages,” says Haider Ibrahim, chairman of the Shia Islamic Association in Sweden.

Temporary marriages or so-called “pleasure marriages” are a practice within Shia Islam that is officially described as shorter relations within the framework of religion. But Uppdrag’s investigation was able to reveal that it also functions as a kind of religiously-sanctioned prostitution. This is where imams are paid to conduct marriages of vulnerable women in “pleasure marriages” to men who want to buy casual sex.

Stopped contributions

The revelation caused a big reaction. One who reacted was Police Chief Petra Stenkula in Malmö.

“If I had led the preliminary investigation, I would have probably written a report on human trafficking,” she said in connection with the investigation.

The umbrella organization, Shia Islamic Association in Sweden (ISS), reacted and froze the membership and stopped contributions for twelve identified associations. They also began their own investigation, which is now finished.

“We have asked questions of all the congregations, and imams, and spoken with our members. We have gone deep into what occurred,” says Haider Ibrahim, chairman of ISS.

Religious leaders leave

The consequences are that two imams in the Stockholm area and twelve religious leaders in other parts of the country have left their duties. According to Haider Ibrahim, this has nothing to do with any systemic sex trafficking, but rather with certain persons who misbehaved.

“There were many in your congregations who abused this. How can that not have been systemic?”

“We refer to our congregational policy. We have concluded that they have no such policy that is shown in the program,” says Haider Ibrahim.

Keep state contribution

During the years 2019 to 2021, the Shia Islamic Association in Sweden received a total of over 14 million kronor in contributions. The absolutely largest portion comes from the Authority for State Contributions to Faith Associations. They say they have continued faith in ISS and are satisfied with the action plan of activities that is presented.

“We will follow up so that they do what they should,” says the director of the authority, Isak Reichel.

Video transcript:

00:00 I reacted strongly, and was very startled as a human being
00:05 that people are being used by religious congregations and religious leaders.
00:10 Women sold — Imams fired
00:16 The women you enjoy yourselves with, to them you will pay money.
00:22 It is like when you enjoy food or…
00:27 In the spring, Uppdrag Granskning revealed Shia Muslim leaders in Sweden who conducted
00:31 marriages with vulnerable women who were then sold to men who wanted to have casual sex.
00:36 We have gone deep into what happened,
00:40 and we have concluded there are no organizations in themselves
00:44 that have a policy to treat
00:48 for example, vulnerable women in this way.
00:51 Rather we have seen that there are individuals themselves
00:54 who have abused temporary marriages, who have misbehaved.
01:00 We have stopped contributions, kicked out persons who were involved.
01:06 We have frozen membership for the congregations who were named in the program.
01:11 It is clear they have gotten hold of this problem
01:16 that has been found the religious association. But perhaps more important than the investigation
01:20 is that they have drawn up an action plan for how they will correct this problem.
01:25 We see this action plan as being very ambitious.
01:29 What are the religious priorities that need to be learned?
01:33 The pillars of marriage, the basic values that are found in society.
01:37 Ethics and morals. That’s a lot [unintelligible].
01:42 Buying sex in Allah’s name — What happened next?



To: koan who wrote (549947)2/4/2023 5:54:49 AM
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Nothing is free LOL!!! You are a Simpleton



To: koan who wrote (549947)6/3/2023 12:15:41 AM
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This is how your socialist dream of Sweden is winding up, all socialist dreams fail and this one is failing badly... R.I.P. Sweden

PS, Sweden and Denamrk are doing very well and are very happy and are very socialistic. Everyone in both countries gets free edcuation through univeristy and universal health care and Danes have beed chracterises as the happiest people on earth.

Is that the failure you are speaking of?


How Sweden Became a Gangster’s Paradise




Fjordman’s latest essay has been published at Gatestone Institute. Below are some excerpts:

How Sweden Became a Gangster’s Paradise

by Peder Jensen

After the Russian invasion of the Ukraine in February 2022, Sweden and Finland abandoned generations of neutrality to apply for membership in the NATO military alliance. However, there is already a gang war going on in Swedish streets, and it has nothing to do with Russia.

Between January and May 2023, Swedish police recorded on average one completed bomb detonation every two days. If you add the bombs that were in preparation, but not yet detonated, Sweden experienced one explosives-related crime per day. Rival gangs increasingly continue to target each other’s relatives with revenge attacks.

In early May 2023, National Police Commissioner Anders Thornberg stated that more than 1,000 people are initiated into criminal gangs across Sweden every year. Despite some arrests, the rate of recruitment shows no sign of slowing down. With three new recruits, many noticeably young, added every day, it is virtually impossible to reduce the total number of active gang members. Thornberg estimated that more than 30,000 people are now involved in gang violence in Sweden. For comparison, he stated that the number of police officers in Sweden is 22,600. The number of gang members already exceeds the number of police and keeps growing at an alarming rate. According to Thornberg, the situation is “extremely serious,” with organized crime infiltrating and corrupting the democratic society, the business world and the public sector.

That Sweden has become one of Europe’s most violent countries has finally attracted international attention. The French newspaper Le Monde lamented “Sweden’s powerlessness in the face of organized violence.” The paper quoted Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson from the Moderate Party stating that the situation is “uncontrollable” and may “get worse before it gets better.” Kristersson labelled the dozens of criminal gangs in Sweden “domestic terrorists.”

Read the rest at Gatestone Institute.


“Sweden must die”

For a complete archive of Fjordman’s writings, see the multi-index listing in the Fjordman Files.



To: koan who wrote (549947)6/3/2023 12:17:19 AM
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Sweden: Asked why she is walking around with Kurdish flag, Muslim migrant replies ‘F**k Sweden’

JUN 2, 2023 3:00 PM

BY ROBERT SPENCER

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Could Sweden’s future possibly be brighter?

“‘F**k Sweden’: The students celebrate with Arab and Kurdish flags,” Fria Tider, June 1, 2023:

DOMESTIC. “Fuck Sweden” was the answer when journalist Joakim Lamotte asked a female student why she was walking around with a Kurdish flag.

Joakim Lamotte has made a report about the student celebration at Burgården’s high school in Gothenburg.

There it was full of students walking around with flags from Arab countries and more.

When Lamotte asks a young woman with a Kurdish flag why the students don’t have Swedish flags, she replies:

“I’m from motherf**king Kurdistan, f**k Sweden,” she replies.

When Joakim Lamotte asks again, he gets a counter question:

“You are a racist, right?”

When Lamotte asks the same questions to another young woman with a foreign flag, he gets exactly the same answer.

“You are a racist, right?”



To: koan who wrote (549947)6/3/2023 12:18:19 AM
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Sweden: City of Stockholm donates $1,225,000 of taxpayer money for construction of giant mosque

JUN 2, 2023 4:00 PM

BY ROBERT SPENCER

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What could possibly go wrong? In Israel in 2021, 29 mosques were exposed as weapons storage sites. In Tunisia in 2015, police found weapons in 40 mosques. Bombs and rocket-propelled grenades were found in mosques in a “Palestinian” “refugee” camp. In mosques in Austria, children are taught not to take non-Muslims as friends (in accord with Qur’an 3:28 and 5:51). In Germany, mosquegoers tried to stop police from arresting a knifeman who had fled into the mosque. In Pakistan, jihadis openly fundraise in mosques. Also in mosques in Pakistan, girls were taught how to behead people. A mosque in Sweden has been dubbed an “espionage nest” for the Islamic Republic of Iran, and a former member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps says that mosques in the U.S. are used to plot jihad attacks. In the UK, a mosque trustee was convicted of encouraging terrorism. In France, a mosque was accused of incitement against Jews, women, and homosexuals.



“The city of Stockholm donates 13.3 million for mosque construction: ‘Contributes to a diverse urban environment,'” translated from “Stockholms stad skänker 13,3 miljoner till moskébygge: ‘Bidrar till mångsidig stadsmiljö,'” Samnytt, June 1, 2023:

Taxpayers contribute SEK 13.3 million to Islamize Skärholmen in southern Stockholm. It was only the Sweden Democrats who opposed and tried to stop the giant construction. The city’s administrator writes that the mosque project is viewed “positively” as “contributing to a diverse urban environment.”

The new giant mosque is currently under construction at Äspholmsvägen in Skärholmen and will be ready in 2025. The mosque will consist of three floors, an indoor area of 2,500 square meters and two 63-meter high minarets. This is reported by the newspaper Kvartal.

The plans to build the mosque have existed for over fifteen years and over the years the project has been stuck in various municipal bodies. Eight years ago, the project took a positive turn for the Islamists when the city of Stockholm donated the land to the Islamic Foundation in Skärholmen.

But despite the fact that the foundation has close links to the Turkish Islamist movement Milli Görüs, which is strongly established in Germany, several board members are members of the movement, no municipal body has ever asked questions about their activities – for example, the view on democracy and equality or how the construction should be financed.

However, the taxpayers in Stockholm have had to pay for earthworks. On May 12, 2022, Stockholm’s development committee decided to approve expenditures of SEK 13.3 million for the earthworks on the site.

Today, the politicians who made the decision do not want to answer questions about the mosque building or the movement behind it, but instead blame each other and refer to the ground work affecting other parts of the area.

When Kvartal is looking for Emilia Bjuggren (S), who at the time of the decision was vice-chairman of the board, she refers to the Moderates who held the chairmanship.

The committee chairman at the time, Johan Nilsson (M), downplays the approval by saying that it involved the relocation of power lines, footpaths and cycle paths.

“I assume that the development office before the decision in 2013 carried out an examination of the actors who applied for a land right. If the examination would have shown that the actor did not have financial opportunities or was engaged in some type of illegal activity or was convicted of, for example, economic crime, then such an application would reasonably be rejected,” says Johan Nilsson (M) to Kvartal.

Only the Sweden Democrats opposed the project. Anders Edin (SD) stated that he wanted to see the city tear up the land assignment agreement. According to Edin, the mosque project contributes to serious segregation and the consequences risk becoming unmanageable.

“Positive – contributes to a diverse urban environment”
In connection with the development committee in the city hammering through the taxpayers’ 13.3 million kroner for the ground work for the mosque – administrator Britta Eliasson wrote that the city views “positively on the project which contributes to a diverse urban environment”.

Furthermore, she writes that the project is not judged to have “any negative impact on children”. When Eliasson was recently asked how she views the assessment today, she replied that the administration sees the movement as a positive force. This is because the mosque mobilized people to minimize the Muslims’ anger when the Danish-Swedish politician Rasmus Paludan held an Islam-critical meeting in Skärholmen.

Want to see Sharia Law
The newspaper writes that it says to read on the mosque’s website that a majority of all Muslims want Sharia law.

“The only principle that is clear and distinct to all Muslims is that sovereignty ultimately belongs to Allah (may His Majesty be exalted), as expressed in the divine law. […] The vast majority of all Muslims, even in the most westernized and modernized countries, would like to live according to the Sharia and have their own freedom and democracy based on their own understanding of these concepts and ideals rather than on how they have been understood in modern times and the postmodern West.”

The Islamist movement behind the mosque building has also received a grant corresponding to SEK 1,659,000 from the Norwegian Agency for Support to Religious Communities (SST) and SEK 1,188,000 from the National Agency for Education.



To: koan who wrote (549947)6/3/2023 12:20:41 AM
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To: koan who wrote (549947)3/19/2024 10:33:06 AM
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"PS, Sweden and Denamrk are doing very well and are very happy and are very socialistic"

They sure are koan...




To: koan who wrote (549947)3/19/2024 10:35:35 AM
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Have you considered moving to Sweden or Denamrk?




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"Sweden and Denamrk are doing very well and are very happy and are very socialistic."

Sweden: Brothers convert to Islam, plot at mosque to carry out jihad massacres of Jews

Dec 7, 2024 9:00 am

By Robert Spencer

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Why didn’t the peaceful people at the mosque rise up and remind them that Islam was a religion of peace and tolerance?

Why do we see yet again converts to Islam getting the idea that their religion calls for harming those who don’t believe in it?

Why do authorities throughout the Western world refuse to examine this phenomenon or even acknowledge that it exists?



“Radicalized Swedish brothers among four charged with preparing acts of terror linked to Islamic State,” by Thomas Brooke, Remix News, December 4, 2024:

Four men, including two Swedish brothers who converted to Islam, have been charged with preparing to commit acts of terror and involvement in a terrorist organization, according to an indictment submitted to Nacka District Court.

The group is accused of acting on behalf of the Islamic State in Somalia, with plans allegedly targeting Jewish individuals as part of their intended “jihad.”

Remix News reported on the case when the suspects were first arrested on March 7, 2024, during a coordinated raid by Sweden’s national task force on multiple locations in Tyresö, a suburb of Stockholm. One of the key locations was a basement mosque on Sikvägen in Bollmora, monitored by Sweden’s Security Service (Säpo) following suspicions of extremist activity.

A covert operation, including surveillance via a spy camera installed in the mosque, revealed individuals handling suspicious weapons, which prompted the raid by the Swedish authorities.

Two Swedish brothers, Elias and Rasmus Johansson, and two other men — 21-year-old Omar Atia and 63-year-old Elyas Hakamali — were arrested.

Elias, 25, and Rasmus, 23, grew up in Tyresö with Swedish-born parents but converted to radical Islam in their teenage years. According to the Samnytt news site, their mother described the time when Elias first became radicalized as “horrible and scary,” a sentiment echoed when Rasmus followed suit a few years later.

The brothers became increasingly devout, frequenting a local basement mosque run by the Tyresö Islamic Cultural Association. Elias reportedly traveled to Morocco in 2023 and attempted to reach Somalia via Turkey in early 2024, raising red flags with Turkish authorities due to his one-way ticket and appearance.

The other suspects have diverse backgrounds. Omar Atia, born in Sweden to Egyptian and Moroccan immigrants, and Elyas Hakamali, originally from Somaliland, allegedly collaborated with the Johansson brothers in connection with the Islamic State in Somalia. The indictment cites discussions among the accused about carrying out terrorist acts, with a focus on Jewish targets….