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To: Webster Groves who wrote (61144)	2/14/2010 10:46:18 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218009

There are other things in science besides high energy physics. The SSC price tag had reached $12 Billion, more than the $10 Billion for the NIH in 1994. content.healthaffairs.org There is also material science, NSF, Darpa and many other programs.

To: Webster Groves who wrote (61144)	2/15/2010 2:20:43 AM
From: koan	Respond to of 218009

Hadn't thought of that, but yes I agree.

To: Webster Groves who wrote (61144)	2/15/2010 8:53:40 AM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218009

Who is the metaphorical We in your first sentance? "Had we fininshed building the huge collider in Texas that Clinton was force to shut down we..." Another point of view was expressed in an original truth be told reporting about LHC using We're.....pointing at your We, in these combined comments we find expressions of self interest. The independent mind must think about the holistic picture within the context of the complete story. RO/RS=CF To: ahhaha who wrote (11643) 10/1/2008 1:19:28 PM From: dvdw© Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 16226 Show em the actual message its precious, two birds with one stone..... "shortly after the first test firing, hackers broke into the computers connected to the Compact Muon Solenoid Detector (CMSD) experiment and left this message: “We're pulling your pants down because we don't want to see you running around naked looking to hide yourselves when the panic comes.” CERN now confirms that damage to the Large Hardon Collider is so serious that it won't operate again before some time in Spring 2009. ( me thinks Never will it run) The lead scientist on that hacked Compact Muon experiment is Joseph Lykken, who received his Ph.D. in physics from MIT in 1982. Dr. Lykken has been a particle physicist for nineteen years at the Fermi Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois. Dr. Lykken told me that the hackers themselves in an ironic good deed closed the “hacked doorway” through which they entered. Further, none of the computers controlling the actual LHC proton beam collisions have any connections to the outside world for precisely the reason to prevent hackers from interfering with such a powerful laboratory. To: ahhaha who wrote (11643) 10/1/2008 1:27:43 PM From: dvdw© Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 16226 "Further, none of the computers controlling the actual LHC proton beam collisions have any connections to the outside world for precisely the reason to prevent hackers from interfering with such a powerful laboratory."