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To: SilentZ who wrote (550197)	2/15/2010 11:13:05 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574343

I am not sure what you mean by progressive HC reform but frankly, I think any HCR would have this country freaking out. I think what he should have done was ditched any bipartisan efforts and pushed the damn thing through asap. By trying to be bipartisan, he allowed the Rs to control the message and poison the well. Obama has gotten HC reform further than any other president. However, those are meaningless words if it doesn't get approved into law. Your comment up above suggests you think his shortcomings have led to HCR getting put into a kind of limbo. If true, what do you think those shortcomings are and who do you think could have done a better job? He started out by negotiating from the middle, and in a very murky way. He never really said what his goals were, but let the Dems in Congress put out a fairly middle-of-the-road plan to begin with, and then let it lurch to the right. I think someone who actually believed in progressive principles rather than a mushy centrist like Obama would do better, but unfortunately there's no one that fit that bill that made a serious run for President (sorry, Kucinich, you don't count) in 2008.

To: SilentZ who wrote (550197)	2/15/2010 11:19:30 PM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574343

"I think someone who actually believed in progressive principles rather than a mushy centrist like Obama would do better" I am not so sure. Anything that would be actually progressive would see the Right strapping on suicide vests and throwing themselves on it before it even got out of the hanger, let alone on the runway, much less taking off.