To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (5982 ) 2/16/2010 5:17:59 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9129 What was the royalty rate agreed with both Motorola and Nokia in 1990 [I think it was that year] for patents up to 1995? <My view is simply that the Europeans were bent on preventing an encroachment on a European technology (GSM), but their efforts to impose restraint of trade elsewhere would have been less successful had initial royalty rates on CDMA technology been tantamount to an offer that non-European service providers couldn't resist. > My understanding is that it was a royalty rate which couldn't be refused. The point of thinking about history is to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes, which we are. You are still promoting the "Lower royalty rate" idea. LTE is the most fantastic thing humanity has ever invented [along with fibre, internet protocol, Google, and the bits and pieces which make up mobile cyberspace]. Giving it away for a song is generous, but unnecessary - considering that the investors were mostly not simply making a donation to a good cause but wanting maximum returns on their investment. Actually, that's understating it. LTE is the most amazing thing not just that humanity has ever invented, but that has ever been invented since the idea of joining carbon together to make DNA. In fact, the invention of DNA is going to be trivial by comparison. Humans are okay, but they are still just a smelly kind of primate, prone to going to sleep or getting drunk and disorderly. Already, Google's memory and recall and speed and precision far outstrip the combined efforts of humans. At times, Google even approximates to thinking. Selling that stupendous achievment for the price of a few Big Macs or a dozen beers is absurd. Mqurice