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To: RetiredNow who wrote (550608)2/17/2010 12:20:51 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1572678
 
I've got a gay older brother. Thanks to him, I'm totally up on all the gay stuff, and have killer gaydar - as does he. He's as solid as citizen as any (R). If not for their position on gays, he'd probably BE one. A very conservative guy. He's been with the same partner for 30 years.

What he does is his business. I stay with him whenever I visit home - his mansion is fabulous.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (550608)2/17/2010 1:47:07 PM
From: Brumar894 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572678
 
I had a gay cousin who died a couple years ago. He was a liberals liberal from teenage on up in a family of conservative Christians that he lived with his entire life. Except for one short trip to CA he lived with his parents, didn't work since his 20's. A complete bum. I don't think the gay thing had anything to do with his being a bum and recluse ... at least he wasn't a drinker or doper. I do think his liberal anti-conservative views were driven by his sexual orientation. My Dad says he accepted Christ as he was dying. My parents cared for him as he deteriorated.

Virtually nobody wants to persecute gay people. But the push is on now to force everyone to like gayness .... we've got a gay czar that has a history of pushing gay porn for school kids. We've already seen the Catholic church pushed out of the adoption arrangement business in MA over gay marraige and churches tax deductions, Boy Scout access to public parks and buildings, doctors and even photographers punished by courts and "human rights" departments over willingness to take part in gay marraiges, have gay Scout leaders, etc. Who cares if children are hurt - we have a gay thought control regime to push. The aggressive side seeking to enforce thought control on others is the gay and pro-gay liberal side now.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (550608)2/17/2010 3:08:00 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572678
 
I thought Rs were for job creation???

Sen. Reid doesn't have the votes to pass $15 billion version of jobs bill

By Jay Heflin - 02/17/10 02:31 PM ET

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) lacks the votes to begin debating his targeted job bills, according to sources monitoring the legislation.

Reid needs 60 votes to open debate on the $15 billion jobs bill up. The vote is scheduled for Monday, when lawmakers return from the Presidents’ Day recess.

“I understand Reid does not have the votes for cloture on Monday on his jobs bill,” one source said.

A Reid spokesman said the vote is in the hands of Republicans. Democrats have 59 senators in their conference.

“It all depends on what Republicans do,” said Jim Manley, a Reid spokesman.


Reid scaled back an $85 billion jobs bill created by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and ranking Republican Chuck Grassley (Iowa) to focus on a narrower package of tax cuts and infrastructure spending.

But since he announced his smaller jobs bill, it has been under siege by Republicans and Democrats alike. Absent political arm-twisting by Senate leaders to bring their rank in file in line, opposition to the bill is expected to be bipartisan, sources said.

Democratic Sen. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) called on Reid to “reconsider” the move and urged him to move the Baucus-Grassley bipartisan proposal.

“I hope the majority leader will reconsider,” Lincoln said in prepared remarks. “This bill was carefully crafted to achieve significant bipartisan support and contains several important measures to spur business growth and encourage new hires.”

The centerpiece to Reid’s bill is a $13 billion tax credit employers can claim for hiring employees who have been out of work for more than 60 days. But not all Democratic senators support the initiative.

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has raised the concern that a shortage in customer demand could render the tax break useless.

“There’s a question of whether that puts the cart before the horse,” said Nelson. “If I don’t have enough customers for my product, hiring more people is not going to help and tax credits are not going to be to my advantage.”

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, has noted the Congressional Budget Office estimate that the impact of extending unemployment insurance would create more jobs than would provide tax credits to employers who hire new workers.

A spokesperson for the majority leader said her boss would extend unemployment insurance before its expiration by the end of the month. Lobbyists see this as the best vehicle for advancing many of the provisions in the Baucus-Grassley jobs proposal put aside by Reid.

Finance leaders included in their measure $31 billion in extensions of expiring tax provisions, including the research and development tax credit that is widely used by businesses. The Information Technology Industry Council sent a letter to Reid on Wednesday urging passage on this and other expiring provisions.

“At a time when creating and protecting jobs is critically important, extending these already expired tax provisions will help preserve and promote high-tech employment in the U.S. and help level the playing field for U.S. companies competing abroad” wrote ITIC President and CEO Dean Garfield. “We urge you to include this broadly supported, bi-partisan legislation as you consider meaningful pro-growth legislation.”

The extender package also resuscitates biodiesel tax credits whose expiration the National Biodiesel Board says has caused 29,000 jobs to be lost since the provision lapsed on Jan. 1.

“The biodiesel tax credit in the [Baucus-Grassley] jobs bill is the only option being considered that will guarantee that workers can be put back to work the day after it is signed into law,” said Dan Farney, an Illinois Soybean Association farmer, in prepared remarks. “Illinois biodiesel plants are laying off more green-collar employees every day that the tax credit is allowed to go unsigned. This just adds to our nation's and state's unemployment problems.”

Grassley’s state has been negatively affected by the tax credit’s expiration. On Tuesday the Iowa Republican condemned Reid for striking extenders from his jobs bill for political gain.

“The industry is hemorrhaging jobs and we can do something to stop it,” Grassley told reporters. “Yet Senator Reid decided that it was more important to play political games than actually saving and creating jobs in the private sector.”

thehill.com