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To: mph who wrote (77634)2/18/2010 4:40:19 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 90947
 
Liberals Are Just Strange

By Mark Noonan on Philosophy

This story caught my eye:


<<< Atlanta Progressive News has parted ways with long-serving senior staff writer Jonathan Springston. Apparently, Springston’s affinity for fact-based reporting clashed with Cardinale’s vision.

And, no, that’s not sarcasm.

In an e-mail statement, editor Matthew Cardinale says Springston was asked to leave APN last week “because he held on to the notion that there was an objective reality that could be reported objectively, despite the fact that that was not our editorial policy at Atlanta Progressive News.” >>>


Initially I thought this was a hoax – some sort of parody of liberalism. But, its not. Now, Matthew Cardinale apparently thought the matter over and realized that denying objective reality would make him – and his publication – a laughingstock. So, he revised and extended his remarks in a long article:


<<< ..Now, the first way we know that there is no such thing as objective media is that we have no evidence, no examples, of objective media outlets. (if you find one, let us know right away!)

Every publication has an editorial perspective which shapes and constrains the way its reporters cover the news, which in turn affects the way its readers view reality… >>>


Which is a reasonable view – the only thing which bugs me about the MSM is that they don’t admit their bias. Cardinale claims its a conservative bias, as a lot of “progressives” do when the MSM shies away from the more lunatic opinions of the left (you know, things like claims that Bush knew about 9/11 beforehand, and such), but such a claim is just laughable for anyone who is not of the far left. Be that as it may, the bias is there – difference between APN and CNN (or, indeed, between Blogs for Victory and CNN) is that the one admits the bias, the other doesn’t.

But here is the crux of the matter:



<<< …I want to clarify- this is not the same as saying there are not facts. Everyone can look at the Grady situation and see that there are dialysis patients, that they are undocumented, that the clinic has closed, etc. (Yes, there are facts within a socially constructed, inter-subjective reality; not quite objective facts.)… >>>


Which is, in the end, an assertion that there are no facts, at all. This is the strangest thing we see on the left – and it simply must stem from the observation that leftist views do not match up to reality. Rather than admit to error in view, the leftist asserts errors in reality – which doesn’t really exist, and if we can just get some progressives in there we’ll make it all better. We’ll leave aside the fact that if there is no objective reality then there is nothing wrong and no need to change – and thus no need for progressives; but making such a comment is a bit of a downer to our liberal friends, so we’ll leave it alone.

It amazes me what people will do to retain an intellectual conceit about themselves. For pity’s sake, just admit there is reality and some times you don’t like it.


blogsforvictory.com



To: mph who wrote (77634)2/18/2010 1:28:37 PM
From: Jim S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
"You should think about whether such needling pays off...........eh?"

<VBG> Until I get my legs cut off at the knees, I'll enjoy the chuckle. <G>