To: micromike who wrote (5343 ) 11/4/1997 3:17:00 PM From: uu Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
Mike: You state: > You like MS do you think Sun is doing the right thing? I dont think Sun will ever bother doing anything with NT (as far as for example integrating it, etc. is concerned). I think NT, believe it or not, will end up benefiting Sun! NT is a great product to be used in a multi tier environment as a middle server communicating with a cluster of UNIX servers. In this architecture NT does need UNIX, but UNIX does not care if it is NT or just another UNIX server used as the middle tier. In a thin client/server centric enviornmnent (as defined by Sun via Java) you need to have a cluser of strong powerful UNIX servers along with one or more servers working as middle tiers. The middle tiers do not have to be UNIX (due to the load of the work they are designed to do). Because of NT's price it is now much more attractive and affordable for corporations to utilize the thin client/server centric environment, and instead of them paying for expensive UNIX servers as their middle tier they will utilize NT while going with the UNIX servers for their backend servers. So in a way NT will ultimately benefit not only MS but also Sun. The thin client model will save a lot (beyond imaginations) for corporations and if NT can reduce part of the cost to move to that model corporations will in large adopt that faster then before. On a seperate note, I just found out that Microsoft has been using their big bully tactics against oversees PC/chip makers to ignore those that ask them to build chips for the NCs. Oracle for example was about to make a huge deal with this PC/chip maker in Brazil for its NCs, but at the last minute the Brazilian PC/chip maker decided to cancel the contract! Reasons given: "We have been threatened by Microsoft if we make the NC chips for you they are not going to let us license Windows 95 OS"! It is the same tactic MS used on CPQ, and DELL. Except here it is oversees and from my understanding the anti-trust laws do not apply to them! But this is OK. As they say it is like a bus, if you miss one there is always another one coming that you can catch! In my oipinion both Sun and Microsoft will win greatly from the new computing model (with Sun of course winning the biggest). Investing in both companies at this time is very wise. Also Mike, I read your comments regarding Y2K and one possible solution for it being to use Jav. Yes this is true, and no you do not have to re-write the entire application (from for example Cobol) to Java. The JavaBean component model makes it possible to have Java wrappers encapsulating the old legacy code. With a combination of ActiveX and JavaBean technology, old legacy COBOL/Assembly code can easily be turned into Java without any major changes to the design and/or code (yes this is perhaps a unique situation where both competing technologies can be used in conjunction with eac other to solve a serious problem!)! In fact I am invested in a Y2K company that is about to do just that. And no I do not believe Y2K will result in a slow down for companies such as Sun, IBM, HP, or Microsoft and as some have gone to the extreme of even predicting a recession taking place by year 2000 beacuse of Y2K problem! The Y2K problem does exist but, in my opinion, it is well under control and the problem is simply overblown to the extreme! Regards, Addi Jamshidi