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To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)2/22/2010 8:49:13 AM
From: John Carragher2 Recommendations  Respond to of 206148
 
my whole house generator runs on gasoline or ng.. cost $2100. 5 gallons of gasoline will run 10 hours at full load. Who needs this item for $700,000.



To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)2/22/2010 8:56:37 AM
From: dvdw©1 Recommendation  Respond to of 206148
 
This is described in patents by N Tesla....

former rocket scientist...who has probably studied those same patents.

no wonder....



To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)2/22/2010 10:45:16 AM
From: a.handbag.1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206148
 
The problem with the Bloom box is not price but Physics. Mass and energy are interchangeable but conserved, meaning they cannot be created or destroyed. No catalyst can turn lead into gold nor make energy from a non energy source. If the energy source is H2 or NG then we have a fuel cell, which is an inefficient use of the fuel.



To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)9/7/2011 7:08:13 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206148
 
Delaware redefines natural-gas-powered fuel cells as renewable.

'Bloom Boxes' a blow to clean energy
Wind, solar firms affected by calling fuel cells 'renewable'
delawareonline.com|topnews|text|Home

excerpts:

Dale Davis, president of the Delaware Solar Energy Coalition, which represents solar installers and manufacturers, said the state has assured him that Delaware installers will see the same amount of business as before the law was changed. But Davis worries about the precedent.

"Why don't we declare clean coal renewable, or nuclear?" Davis said...

...This, said Bill Zak, a Lewes environmentalist who led efforts to cut emissions at the coal-burning Indian River Power Plant, is a big reason to be skeptical that fuel cells represent a major advance.The idea of the renewable portfolio standard was to encourage zero-emission, self-replenishing electricity, he said.

If a fossil fuel, however transformed, can be considered renewable, "for me, the definition of renewable portfolio ceases to have real meaning," Zak said.


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Gee, if producing electricity from frack produced nat gas is considered renewable, meeting renewable portfolio standards should be a breeze! ; ^)



To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)6/23/2012 10:42:54 AM
From: Dennis Roth1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206148
 
EBay Plans Data Center That Will Run on Alternative Energy Fuel Cells
By JAMES GLANZ Published: June 20, 2012
nytimes.com



To: CommanderCricket who wrote (128791)7/27/2014 10:59:02 AM
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GE Claims Fuel Cell Breakthrough, Starts Pilot Production
By Martin LaMonica
Posted 25 Jul 2014 | 19:00 GMT spectrum.ieee.org

General Electric has developed a way to convert natural gas using a combination of fuel cell and an engine, an approach it hopes will finally result in broad adoption of stationary fuel cells.

The industrial giant's research arm on Tuesday disclosed details on its solid-oxide fuel cell research efforts and said it has started a pilot line at a factory in upstate New York to manufacture the generators. As first reported here last year, GE has achieved relatively high efficiency by coupling two generators and hopes to bring down costs by using cheaper materials.

Instead of using expensive platinum or other rare metals as catalysts, GE's fuel cell uses stainless steel, the company says. It generates electricity by flowing fuel through stacks of ceramic plates where a chemical reaction between the fuel and oxygen from incoming air occurs between a positive and negative electrode at high temperatures.

The core technical innovation lies in the ceramic plates, GE materials scientist Kristen Brosnan said in a statement. The anode and zirconium-oxide electrolyte layers are deposited using a thermal spray technology now used to protect parts inside GE jet engines. The cathode is a printable ceramic material GE developed. "Our materials are easy to apply, can handle large temperature swings and last a long time," says Brosnan.

GE engineers have also taken advantage of another generator in its product portfolio—its Jenbacher gas engine—to squeeze more electricity from the available fuel. The natural gas-to-electricity conversion produces exhaust gases, which contain a mixture of hydrogen and carbon. This synthetic gas, or syngas, is fed into the engine to produce additional power. Combined, GE estimates it can turn 65 percent of the usable energy from natural gas into electricity. Bloom Energy, which also makes a solid-oxide fuel cell, says its fuel cells are about 60 percent efficient. Using the waste heat from this process, GE thinks it can get to 95 percent energy efficiency...

General Electric is building a fuel cell pilot development and manufacturing plant in upstate New York Robin K. Cooper Managing Editor- Albany Business Review Jul 22, 2014, 7:30pm EDT Updated: Jul 23, 2014, 7:49am EDT
bizjournals.com

General Electric has created a new fuel cell startup business and is building a fuel cell pilot development and manufacturing plant in Malta, New York, the company announced Tuesday.

The company said it has developed a new technology "that could soon start producing electricity around the world."

The new Malta plant in Saratoga County already is being equipped with robotic thermal spray equipment, fuel cell test stations, screen printers and towering bulk gas storage tanks...

The New Power Generation: This Fuel Cell Startup Could Spark a Revolution
July 22, 2014 gereports.com

There’s more than one way to get energy out of natural gas...