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To: RetiredNow who wrote (552321)2/26/2010 11:39:23 PM
From: tejek1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573248
 
Two interesting takes on yesterday's health care summit.

Jon Stewart was the only one who like the health care summit

Watch:

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The Health Care Summit

Posted by Joe Klein Friday, February 26, 2010 at 10:28 am

Shame on me. I was elsewhere yesterday and missed the health care summit. I'm catching up now, and the tea leaves seem to indicate that Obama came out well ahead of the Republicans. How do I know that? From Matt Drudge, of course. I mean, Drudge's takeaway from the summit is that the President talked a lot--actually, the President, the Congressional Democrats and Republicans each spoke an equal amount--the Times of London found it boring and the networks turned to other programming.

Reading between the lines, you can conclude that the Republicans had nothing very interesting, or clever, to say (and were never able to get the President's goat). And that the President was his usual, unflappable, well-informed self. You can also conclude that not much progress was made at the summit, as Karen reports here--but that's a huge surprise, right?

Reading further, in the New York Times, I can't find any indications that the Congressional Democrats were actually present at this meeting. Certainly, they had nothing notable to say, no new compromises to propose--which leads to another obvious conclusion: the Republicans have been absolutely recalcitrant in this process, but the Dems are no bargain, either.

I remain convinced that if the Republicans actually wanted to deal with this issue, they might have gotten some major concessions from the President--malpractice reform, for sure; perhaps a greater use of insurance polices that emphasize catastrophic coverage (as the Republicans wanted), maybe even a system--as John McCain proposed during the campaign and health wonks everywhere favor--that truly limited the deductability of corporate health care benefits. To get these things, however, the Republicans would have had to say yes at some point. As in, YES, I'll vote for the bill if you throw in malpractice and pay for it with the money you get from limiting deductability. That is what happens in a negotiation. That is what is supposed to happen in a democracy.

But the obvious truth here is that the Republicans do not want any sort of health care bill to pass at all because they do not want to hand President Obama a victory. Shame on them.

Read more: swampland.blogs.time.com



To: RetiredNow who wrote (552321)2/27/2010 10:10:43 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573248
 
I couldn't care less about civil unions .... I'm against changing the definition of marriage. Whether a state allows some kind of domestic partnership or civil union is unimportant to me.

You have forgotten that the issue is marriage. And that the same sex marriage movement rejects civil unions, which they've had in CA for years, as second class status.

Are you dumb or deliberately misrepresenting the issues?

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