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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (553118)	3/4/2010 7:36:10 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1574302

Are you kidding? Christianity ended slavery? Why did it take 1800 years? YOu need to read the history of civilzation by Will Durant. Slavery and cannibalism ended when civilzation reached a certain level of understanding. You do not understand history very well. They called it the dark ages because it was a period of intellectual decline after the fall of Rome and replaced by the harsh dogma of the church when intellectuals were put to death by the church for heresy. Guys like Bruno, Copericus (almost killed) and Galileo (almost killed). Everyone feared the church in those days. History goes like this: 350 BC, ancient Greeks explored reason, Romans wipped out Greece; then Rome fell and we went into the Dark ages until about the 14th century (renaissance); and then the 18th century, "age of enlightenment" whereby people realized reason was the foundation of civilzation. Well, at least now I know why you believe what you believe. Slavery and cannialism ended when we reachded a certain level of civilization (i.e. reason instead of myth: and it ended around the world. Koan, > Are you familiar with the "Dark Ages" and why it was called that? And the "Age of enlightenment" and why it is called that? What do you think ended cannibalism and slavery? Christians ended slavery. Even here in America, Abraham Lincoln was a devout Christian. The Quakers were also well-known abolitionists, and they along with other Protestants helped lead the anti-slavery movements in England and America during the 19th century. I don't know why you keep bringing up cannibalism, since it was not prevalent in Western societies even during the Dark Ages. Cannibalism was practiced more by primitive tribes in areas where Christian missionaries visited. Those missionaries (at least the ones who avoided becoming dinner themselves) successfully ended the practice of cannibalism wherever they spread the Gospel. The Age of Enlightenment helped establish the free market of ideas we have today, but there is no direct connection between it and the abolition of slavery and cannibalism. No doubt it may be related to the anti-slavery movement, but to associate it with the end of cannibalism is ridiculous. You still haven't told me how "modern day education" ended cannibalism, war, and slavery. Tenchusatsu

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (553118)	3/4/2010 10:09:21 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574302

re: "Christians ended slavery" "New Testament The New Testament, unfortunately, is little better. Jesus never even comes close to expressing disapproval of the enslaving of other human beings, and many statements attributed to him reveal a tacit acceptance or even approval of that inhuman institution. Throughout the Gospels we read passages like: A disciple is not above the teacher, nor a slave above the master (Matt. 10:24) Who then is the faithful and wise slave, whom his master has put in charge of his household, to give the other slaves their allowance of food at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom his master will find at work when he arrives. (Matt. 24:45-46) Although Jesus is using slavery in order to illustrate larger points, the question still remains why he would directly acknowledge the existence of slavery without saying anything negative about it? The letters (rightly or wrongly) attributed to Paul are even worse, making it clear that the existence of slavery is not only acceptable, but that slaves themselves should not presume to take the idea of freedom and equality preached by Jesus too far by attempting to escape their forced servitude. Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these duties. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words. From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. (1Tim. 6:1-5) Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. (Eph. 6:5-6) Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior. (Titus 2:9-10) Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. For it is a credit to you if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, what credit is that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God's approval. (1Pet. 2:18-29) "