To: pcstel who wrote (27669 ) 3/10/2010 2:16:07 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Respond to of 29986 Okay, that was a tautology, though as you pointed out, "voice" in the old lingo did refer to circuit switched telephones rather than voip. And yes, I did refer to minutes rather than megabytes, but for making calls, that's a reasonable way to sell conversations. <Voice Calls???? Do people still make Voice Calls in New Zealand??? In the US. The RBOC's want to dismantle their Circuit Switched networks because of non-use and expense > People have a good grasp of minutes but are learning slowly how big megabytes are. It's a simple matter for a microphone to detect voice - there's a characteristic waveform and data amount. PureVoice was designed to just carry the voice and not the background and incidental sounds. It would be reasonable to have two prices - one for voice and one for data. Charge voice per minute [if people prefer] and other things by megabytes. Maybe that's a waste of effort and people should just learn that when they are talking it costs them a certain amount. Skype conversations at 10c per megabyte come out to about 2c a minute [with video turned off]. Okay, I've talked myself into it, charge everything by megabytes, not minutes. The point is, it is not a "free" service if somebody has to pay a fortune for the device. In the car industry, people bought Hummers while some bought Prius. After buying their device, they then had to go to the markets and bid for fuel. The price of fuel goes up and down. It went so high that the Hummers became quite a liability. Salves of large vehicles plunged. Hummer went out business. GM went bust. It's true that people whine to the government that fuel should be free and they get all bent and twisted when it went to $4 a gallon in the USA, which is absurdly cheap. People did seem to think there was somebody "out there" who owes them cheap fuel for the rest of their lives. So yes, you are right, there is an educational process in learning about auctions. Some people are unfit for auctions. Some are unfit for much of anything. Nature takes care of that problem. In the fruit and vegetable markets, prices go up and down a lot with seasons. When something is in season, it's cheaper than when out of season. Most people can understand that after a few years of buying fresh fruit. They have learned it for gasoline buying. They are starting to learn it for electricity pricing. They are learning it for credit markets, jobs, and currencies. They need to learn it for megabytes in cyberspace. The laws of supply and demand and gravity have not been repealed. Mqurice