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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (240479)	3/10/2010 2:54:17 PM
From: Slumdog	Respond to of 306849

>Turning off the ignition frequently locks the steering column.< ...always, unless you have a '67 Beetle. All the way off, yes of course. You know that in the majority of current models, there is a position on the tumbler that allows windows, radio, fan, etc. to operate, and the wheel to turn without the engine running. It doesn't go straight from "on" to "lock" To re-iterate GST's point, many drivers are far more familiar with the operation of vanity mirrors, sound systems, and sunroofs, than the running gear in their car. EDIT: I believe the very first key position from "lock" frees up the wheel. The next position gives you your electrics, then the starter, unless there is a button.

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (240479)	3/10/2010 3:04:35 PM
From: Roebear	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

One of the many factors to take into consideration, but the curvey road will be more of a problem at 100mph than at 45, yes?? W/O any hard info on the problem, I am willing to bet the problem occurs more often under these two circumstances: One, the push button start where there is no key, hence one less obvious (note OBVIOUS) defensive measure and one more electronic glitch possibility. Two, totally not mechanically inclined motorists who have no clue how their cars operate and just panic at any unusual event. with number two, btw, it would be a relief for me to see a little uncharacteristic (as opposed to uncommanded) acceleration for a change, rather than a constant twittering of the brake lights of these already normally terrified drivers, ggg. PS Just bought a new Toyota, all the bells and whistles BUT a keyed ignition and a replaced due to recall accelerator. BTW My old Toyota also had the recall problem, but I never noticed, I thought the accelerator was supposed to be mashed to the floor all the time! ggg