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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (28256)	3/10/2010 5:53:05 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Touche! Lock tight proof of a-holiness.... again. DAK

To: Solon who wrote (28256)	3/11/2010 3:08:42 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Denouncing and calling someone evil (as both you and Rand have done) because they do not conform to your arbitrarily derived moral construct is to use force." "So nobody called anyone evil because they did not conform!" "To judge means: to evaluate a given concrete by reference to an abstract principle or standard." Ayn Rand "Any group, any gang, any nation that attempts to negate man’s rights, is wrong, which means: is EVIL, which means: is anti-life." AYN RAND To judge someone to be evil or to have acted in an evil manner as you clearly have done is to implicitly say that they have failed to conform to a standard that one considers to be the good. You didn't need to explicitly say the words "because they do not conform" they are logically necessary. "nobody with half a brain thinks that attaching verbal attributes to someone is applying the use of FORCE!!" It's called verbal abuse and it is indeed a form of the use of force. Police brutality is the intentional use of excessive force, usually physical, but potentially also in the form of verbal attacks and psychological intimidation, by a police officer. en.wikipedia.org Take the verbal abuse quiz. boards.ojar.com "This is a list of abusive behaviors that you (or your loved one) might be experiencing right now. Look at this list; be honest with your answers. No one else is looking. Don't answer them with, "yes, but ..." Just answer yes or no to these questions. Then we'll talk about them at the bottom. Does your spouse or significant other: Hit, punch, slap, shove, or bite you? Threaten to hurt you or your children? Threaten to hurt friends or family members? Have sudden outbursts of anger or rage? Behave in an overprotective manner? Become jealous without reason? Prevent you from seeing family or friends? Prevent you from going where you want, when you want? Prevent you from working or attending school? Destroy personal property or sentimental items? Deny you access to family assets, such as bank accounts, credit cards, or even the car? Control all finances and force you to account for what you spend? Force you to have sex against your will? Force you to engage in sexual acts you do not enjoy? Insult you or call you derogatory names? Use intimidation or manipulation to control you or your children? Humiliate you in front of your children? Turn minor incidents into major arguments? Abuse or threaten to abuse pets? Withhold affection from you? Now, if you were honest and answered them truthfully, here is a statement that might shock you. If you answered YES to even ONE of those questions, you are being verbally abused. I realize that you may have said, "Well, yes, but he does it because he loves me, or because he worries about me, or he doesn't realize he's doing it." I want to take each one of those "justifications" and show you why it's just an excuse. First of all, there is never any acceptable reason for physically hurting you. Not "Oh I didn't mean to," or "You just took it wrong." Not even "It was an accident," especially if it happens repeatedly. As far as threats are concerned, threats are a means to coerce you into submission to what HE wants you to do. No human should be forced into doing anything they don't want to do. If he threatens to hurt you or your children or your family or even your pet, he is trying to MAKE you do what he wants. There is no acceptable excuse in the world to justify that one. If he's prone to outbursts anger and jealousy, these are also methods of "keeping you in line." He knows that you will adjust YOUR behavior in an attempt to prevent HIM from acting in such a way. Being overprotective is simply a way to control what you do, by saying "Oh I just don't want you to get hurt." You are a big girl. You can handle yourself - he just wants you to think you can't. This was a quiz I found that opened my eyes to behaviours I wasn't sure if it was my fault or not in my marriage. There is NO excuse for another person to treat someone they love this way. If you are in an abusive relationship please seek help as soon as possible. Contact your family if possible and your local domestic abuse shelter for assistance." ................... How did you score there Solon?