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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (28289)	3/12/2010 10:18:59 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

<<<"I know that you THINK that circular declarations represent a huge and decisive victory over the forces of darkness">>> "A stupid comment out of the blue." All the gratuitous insults in the world will not make your circles less round. Who do you think is buried in Grant's tomb anyway? ........................... <<<"I know you use the word "objective" when you really mean "subjective".">>> "No. I use the word "objective" when I mean "objective"--just as I told you clearly in the post." A value, by definition is subjective. Simply calling your subjective values, objective is a nice trick though. ............................... <<<"when you say "intelligent and knowledgeable" you really mean those "who agree with me".>>> "What?? are you a nut?? You don't know what "intelligent" and "knowledgeable" mean??" I was just wondering the same thing about you and your "TRUE SCOTSMAN". ............................ <<<"And yet you continue to make them">>> I have NEVER made an ABSOLUTE moral judgment...NOT EVER. You must think I am some kind of an omniscient god--LOL!! So God is not an evil beast. I'm sure He will be happy to hear that you have changed your mind. ............................. "I have known most of my life that human values are human values and that they have changed in content as we have developed the ability to walk upright and to think." I thought you said they were objective? Sigh..... ......................... <<<"It would take an entire post just to unpack all the intentionally false misrepresentations since there is not one thing true in the entire statement.">>> "The entire statement was true and THAT is why you cannot touch it!" No: I just don't have a pole that long and it stinks so bad that I'd rather not. ........................... <<<"YOU used the word force in response to my statement that had nothing to do with physical force">>> "Excuse me, you did not mean physical force." Don't trouble yourself over your "mistakes". ............................ <<<"Note the agreement of many others that Rand has failed to justify the move from is to ought (moral obligation)">>> "Now you slip your canoe into another stream. Well...I'm not going back several hundred posts. I recall refuting your foolishness to this same claim somewhere back there" Actually you are the one who ignored that point and changed the subject to force. Perhaps you would like to address that now. Message 26364736 ................................. "Atheists complain that no one has the right to impose their moral obligations on them but then turn around and call people evil" "Atheists are individuals.... They have no standard complaints about anything.... If I call someone evil it is because I am expressing an opinion. You have every right to express your moral opinion just as I do. But if you try to IMPOSE your morality on me (unless you have the backing of our legal system) I will certainly retaliate. Because if you need to force your values on me it stands to reason prima facie that you are either evil or irrational because if your values were reasonable and rightful I would not need to be forced to them." Wow! I guess we can throw away all our laws and jails now and and just skip lightly away into your atheist utopia.