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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121376)3/12/2010 9:54:19 PM
From: Tommaso  Respond to of 132070
 
Man, you do make me laugh.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121376)3/12/2010 10:26:43 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
The pope brother turns out to be a pimp

Pedophile Priest From Pope's Archdiocese Was Allowed to Stay in MinistryUpdated: 7 minutes ago
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AOL News (March 12) -- The fallout from the growing Catholic sex abuse scandals finally reached as far as the pope Friday when it was revealed that Benedict XVI knew a priest was a pedophile in 1980 but approved a stint in therapy that allowed him to continue in the ministry, where he remains today.

Benedict was an archbishop in Germany when the case began in 1980. The priest was accused of forcing an 11-year-old boy to perform oral sex on him, the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported Friday night.

Benedict approved a decision moving the priest, identified only as "H," to a rectory in Munich where he was to undergo therapy. After about a month, according to a statement issued Friday by the Munich-Freising archdiocese, Monsignor Gerhard Gruber decided to return the priest to a Munich parish.

But by 1985, new allegations surfaced. In 1986, the priest was convicted of sexually abusing other minors after he had been moved to the town of Grafing to do pastoral work. He received a fine, a suspended prison sentence and more therapy before again returning to pastoral work.

Gregorio Borgia, AP
As an archbishop, Benedict XVI approved a stint in therapy for a pedophile priest in his archdiocese. The priest was allowed to return to the ministry and was later convicted of abusing other minors.
In May 2008, "H" was once again removed from his parish work, this time in the town of Garching, according to the diocesan statement. He works in the archdiocese's tourism operations but is not allowed to conduct any work involving children, the statement said.

The pope, then known as Joseph Ratzinger, became archbishop of Munich and Freising in 1977 and was made a cardinal that same year. He remained head of the archdiocese until 1982. He then moved to Rome where he became the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith until he was elected pope in 2005 after the death of John Paul II.

The German archdiocese issued a statement Friday saying Gruber, now 81, takes "full responsibility" for the decision to return "H" to pastoral work. Gruber said in a statement released by the archdiocese that he had not made the future pope aware of his decision because it was the kind of call that was often left to his underlings.

"The cardinal could not deal with everything," Gruber said. "The repeated employment of 'H' in pastoral duties was a serious mistake. I deeply regret that this decision led to offenses against youths. I apologize to all who were harmed."

Neither the Vatican nor Gruber commented on whether or not "H" would continue working in the church at his current post in Garching in Upper Bavaria.

Friday's revelations are just the latest bad news for the Vatican, which has been mired in intensifying sexual abuse scandals in Germany, Austria, Ireland and the Netherlands as well allegations that the Mexican founder of one of the church's most favored orders sexually molested his illegitimate sons.

The new information about the pope came less than a month after Irish bishops were summoned to the Vatican to discuss decades of clerical sexual abuse in Ireland and on the very same day that a delegation of German bishops met with the pontiff.

The crisis has been growing in Germany, where more than 170 students have alleged they were sexually abused at several Catholic high schools.

On Friday, the head of Germany's Catholic bishops apologized to victims after the meeting with the pope. He said Benedict had said he felt "great dismay" over the scandal.

On Wednesday, the pope's older brother, Georg Ratzinger, was also drawn into the furor. Some of most explosive clerical sex abuse claims in Germany center on a prestigious choir, the Regensburger Domspatzen, that Georg Ratzinger led for 30 years.

Several former singers in the choir have come forward with claims that at least two priests attached to the elementary boarding school allied to the choir sexually abused and brutally mistreated their charges.

Ratzinger denied any knowledge of sexual abuse but admitted he slapped some of the boys in the choir and knew of violence on the part of a headmaster associated with a school where choir members attended.
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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121376)3/13/2010 9:46:46 AM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
I thought you might enjoy this.

bloodhorse.com



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121376)3/13/2010 10:37:00 AM
From: LowtherAcademy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Hi Mike, Not only did this make me nostalgic for the 19th Century and Westward expansion, the California Gold Rush and
no Income Taxes and Opium at the corner druggist, but it got me to thinking about hiring the Chinese to take over our Prison System.
finance.yahoo.com
And, they'd probably make pretty darn good and cheap Mercenaries for our Middle East and African Adventures.
And, of course, I'd like to have a cheap legal housekeeper--although sadly it would have to be a Closeau's Kato instead of an Emporer's concubine due to the dearth of women in the new China....

On a more serious note, I read over on Fleckenstein's Ask Fleck that the Chinese were having a labor shortage for manufacturing. Seems that when the factories all closed last year and the peasants when back home they found employment building infrastructure for China's new Cities.
Who'd a thunk it? In fact, the Factories are having to recruit with signing bonuses. Reminds me of Calgary and the McDonalds joints having to offer signing bonuses during the Oil Sands Expansion a couple of years back.

And in the ultimate Bizzaro World window dressing, our new potential subcontractors would rather be paid in a Treasuries swap than Gold as they believe Gold is a bubble.

Is this a great time to live, or what?



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121376)3/13/2010 11:01:18 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
The Pope is a pedophile and refuses to take responsibility for what happened on his watch. A leader who claims he KNOWS NOTHING. His brother a pedophile,A pimp and torturer.
Nice family values.
The church appoints a lawyer named Pfister!-NG/G-
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Scandal’s shadow touches pope’s German years
By Nicholas Kulish and Rachel Donadio, New York Times News Service | March 13, 2010

BERLIN — A widening child sexual abuse inquiry in Europe has landed at the doorstep of Pope Benedict XVI, as a senior church official acknowledged yesterday that a German archdiocese made “serious mistakes’’ in handling an abuse case while the pope served as its archbishop.

The archdiocese said that a priest accused of molesting boys was given therapy in 1980 and later allowed to resume pastoral duties, before committing further abuses and being prosecuted. Pope Benedict, who at the time headed the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising, approved the priest’s transfer for therapy. A subordinate took full responsibility for allowing the priest to resume pastoral work, the archdiocese said in a statement.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said he had no comment beyond the statement by the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising, which he said showed the “nonresponsibility’’ of the pope in the matter.

The expanding abuse inquiry had come ever closer to Benedict as new accusations in Germany surfaced almost daily since the first reports in January. Yesterday the pope met with the chief bishop of Germany, Archbishop Richard Zollitsch, the head of the German Bishops Conference, to discuss the church investigations and media reports.

Problems in the German church have already come close to the pope, whose brother, MonsignorGeorg Ratzinger, 86, directed a choir connected to a boarding school where two former students have come forward with abuse claims. In an interview this week, Ratzinger, who directed the choir from 1964 to 1994, said the accusations dated from before his tenure. He also apologized for slapping students.

At a news conference following a one-on-one meeting with Benedict yesterday, Zollitsch said the pope was “greatly upset’’ and “deeply moved’’ by the abuse allegations, and had urged the German church to seek the truth and help the victims.

The meeting and news conference occurred before the statement from the Munich archdiocese.

Zollitsch said the German church had vowed to investigate all allegations of abuse, encouraging victims to identify themselves even if the abuse happened decades ago. In recent weeks, hundreds of people have come forward.

“The cases are growing every day,’’ said Thomas Pfister, a lawyer appointed by the German church to investigate cases in the Ettal monastery boarding school in Bavaria. He said more than 100 people have contacted him.

“Every day I receive e-mails from around the world from people who have been abused,’’ Pfister said, adding that the school had posted his e-mail address on its website to encourage this. “There has been a very big silence. Now they want to have a voice.’’

Experts said the scandals could undermine Benedict’s moral authority, especially because they cut particularly close to the pope himself. As head of the Vatican’s main doctrinal arm, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, he led Vatican investigations into abuse for four years before assuming the papacy in 2005.

“What is at stake, and at great risk, is Benedict’s central project for the ‘re-Christianization’ of Christendom, his desire to have Europe return to its Christian roots,’’ said David Gibson, the author of a biography of Benedict. “But if the root itself is seen as rotten, then his influence will be badly compromised.’’

When a sex abuse scandal broke in Boston church in 2002, Pope Benedict — then Cardinal Ratzinger — was among the Vatican officials who made statements that minimized the problem and accused the news media of blowing it out of proportion.

But as the abuse case files landed on his desk at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, his colleagues said he was deeply disturbed by what he learned. On his first visit to the United States as pope, Benedict met with abuse victims from Boston and said he was “deeply ashamed’’ by priests who had harmed children.

But victims’ advocates accuse the pope of doing little to discipline the bishops who permitted abusers to continue serving in ministry. The case in Munich, which was brought to the attention of the diocese by the daily newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung, was a result of “serious mistakes,’’ the archdiocese said in its statement.

In the Munich case, a priest from Essen, “despite allegations of sexual abuse, and in spite of a conviction — was repeatedly assigned work in the sphere of pastoral care by the then-Vicar-General Gerhard Gruber,’’ who worked under Benedict when he was the archbishop.

The priest, identified only with the initial “H,’’ was moved to Munich in January 1980, where he was supposed to undergo therapy. Benedict was archbishop of Munich from 1977 to 1982.

In June 1986, the priest was convicted of sexually abusing minors and given an 18-month suspended sentence with five years of probation, fined 4,000 marks and ordered to undergo therapy.

The former vicar-general took full responsibility for the decision to reinstate the priest to pastoral work. “I deeply regret that this decision resulted in offenses against youths and apologize to all who were harmed by it,’’ he said, according to a statement on the archdiocese’s website.

The Rev. Thomas P. Doyle, who once worked at the Vatican Embassy in Washington and became an early and well-known whistle-blower on sexual abuse in the church, said the vicar-general’s claim was not credible.

“Pope Benedict is a micromanager. He’s the old style. Anything like that would necessarily have been brought to his attention.’’


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