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To: SiouxPal who wrote (188274)3/16/2010 6:29:02 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 361944
 
like this TOD comment. Feel free to substitute your favorite wind mill or home nuke. I'm not sure his #'s are right, but the concept is good.

tstreet on March 15, 2010 - 8:38pm
Even if we stipulate that solar panels are dependent upon the continued existence of cheap fossil fuels, it might make sense to look at the panels as a form of long term oil storage. China may push us out of the oil market and we apparently are not going to significantly increase our strategic reserve. Accordingly, let's buy as many cheap panels from China while the oil is still around to make them.

Solar panels are at least equivalent to 30 years of stored energy. Maybe more. It is not clear.

The oil is going to be burned up quickly, increasingly by the China's and India's of the world. Arguably, to invest in solar is like investing in long term storage of oil.

This is not a strategy that will necessarily work after we get into the serious downward curve on oil, but what other strategy is currently available. In the mean time, maybe efficiency of the cells themselves and the efficiency of manufacturing cost can make solar viable beyond the point in which the fossil fuel subsidy is not available.

We may be screwed regardless of what we do but it does not seem to make sense to not have a proxy for long term storage of an energy source that will soon we in very short supply. Besides, the Chinese are doing a better job than we are of securing oil for themselves all over the world while we piss away our empire worrying about terrorists.