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To: J.B.C. who wrote (353998)	3/17/2010 9:53:23 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 794389

First, AP releases this headline today: AP FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan

To: J.B.C. who wrote (353998)	3/17/2010 9:58:23 PM
From: KLP	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794389

Later today, the AP headline reads: FACT CHECK: Obama plan only slows premiums rise By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR (AP) – 5 hours ago WASHINGTON — Buyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print. Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don't look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help millions of people who can't afford the cost now. Listening to Obama pitch his plan, you might not realize that's how it works. Visiting a Cleveland suburb this week, the president described how individuals and small businesses will be able to buy coverage in a new kind of health insurance marketplace, gaining the same strength in numbers that federal employees have. "You'll be able to buy in, or a small business will be able to buy into this pool," Obama said. "And that will lower rates, it's estimated, by up to 14 to 20 percent over what you're currently getting. That's money out of pocket." And that's not all. Obama asked his audience for a show of hands from people with employer-provided coverage, what most Americans have. "Your employer, it's estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000 percent," said the president, "which means they could give you a raise." A White House press spokesman later said the president misspoke; he had meant to say annual premiums would drop by $3,000. It could be a long wait. "There's no question premiums are still going to keep going up," said Larry Levitt of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a research clearinghouse on the health care system. "There are pieces of reform that will hopefully keep them from going up as fast. But it would be miraculous if premiums actually went down relative to where they are today." The statistics Obama based his claims on come from two sources. In both cases, caveats got left out. A report for the Business Roundtable, an association of big company CEOs, was the source for the claim that employers could save $3,000 per worker on health care costs, the White House said. Issued in November, the report looked generally at proposals that Democrats were considering to curb health care costs, concluding they had the potential to significantly reduce future increases. But the analysis didn't consider specific legislation, much less the final language being tweaked this week. It's unclear to what degree the bill that the House is expected to vote on within days would reduce costs for employers. An analysis by the Congressional Budget Office of earlier Senate legislation suggested savings could be fairly modest. It found that large employers would see premium savings of at most 3 percent in 2016, compared with what their costs would have been without the legislation. That would be more like a few hundred dollars instead of several thousand. The claim that people buying coverage individually would save 14 percent to 20 percent comes from the same budget office report, prepared in November for Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind. But the presidential sound bite fails to convey the full picture. The budget office concluded that premiums for people buying their own coverage would go up by an average of 10 percent to 13 percent, compared with the levels they'd reach without the legislation. That's mainly because policies in the individual insurance market would provide more comprehensive benefits than they do today. For most households, those added costs would be more than offset by the tax credits provided under the bill, and they would pay significantly less than they have to now. However, the budget office estimated that about 4 in 10 customers shopping for an individual policy would not be eligible for tax credits — and would face higher premiums on average than without the legislation. The premium reduction of 14 percent to 20 percent that Obama often cites would apply only to a portion of the people buying coverage on their own — those who want to keep the skimpier kinds of policies available today. Their costs would go down because more young people would be joining the risk pool and because insurance company overhead costs would be lower in the more efficient system Obama wants to create. The president usually alludes to that distinction in his health care stump speech, saying the savings would accrue to those people who continue to buy "comparable" coverage to what they have today. But many of his listeners may not pick up on it. "People are likely to not buy the same low-value policies they are buying now," said health economist Len Nichols of George Mason University. "If they did buy the same value plans ... the premium would be lower than it is now. This makes the White House statement true. But is it possibly misleading for some people? Sure." Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. google.com

To: J.B.C. who wrote (353998)	3/18/2010 12:39:09 PM
From: J.B.C.	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794389

Democrats are in the process of a major implosion, I expect some to defect and say.."What's in it for me?" I'll do my best Rush.....Don't DOUBT me: Report: Dem Congressman Michael Arcuri Switches From Yes To No On Health Care Bill Eric Kleefeld \| March 18, 2010, 12:07PM Rep. Michael Arcuri (D-NY), a swing-district Democrat who previously voted for the House health care bill, will now vote against the current bill, the Hotline reports. Arcuri has previously indicated that he was leaning against the bill, saying two weeks ago about the Senate version: "There would have to be some dramatic changes in it for me to change my position." House Democrats will need every vote they can, of course, in order to get to the 216 threshold. And Arcuri is now one name subtracted from their column.