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To: RMF who wrote (42236)	3/18/2010 9:23:09 AM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71588

The third parties that have sprung up recently have been center right, center left and lunatic fringe leftwing. The havoc they have brought has generated ill will. Clinton would not have been elected in 1992 if not for Perot. President Bush 43 wouldn't have won in 2000 without Nader. While each was good in some ways, each was bad for the country in other ways. A better answer would be to splinter into about five parties. It seems like a decade or two ago Germany was ruled under a coalition of right leaning parties and the most leftwing party in their Parliament. It didn't last too long, but for a year or two it did. Mitch Daniels seems to be the guy right now, but if he runs as a Republican with the SAME Republicans still there I'm not sure if he can accomplish the things he'd need to accomplish. The Republicans would just say, "Well, we won again, so it's just business as usual". President Bush 43 learned from the Great Emancipator not speak ill of any Republican. The next Republican President will likely learn from some of the failings of President Bush 43 the limits of that policy. It will require not only a strong President but a strong leader in the House to tell Dan Young he isn't going to keep his seat on Appropriations. If people like him and Pelosi are allowed leadership roles then they will abuse their power. For one I would like to see Tom Coburn the next majority leader in the Senate.

To: RMF who wrote (42236)	3/18/2010 11:51:56 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

A third party could give an ALTERNATIVE and the SANE people in the country could just get together 34% of the voters and they'd be in. There isn't any particular reason for a third party to be saner than the existing two (and that's ignoring the point that what is sane in this context is subjective). Also getting 34% for a new party is very hard, and even if they do it doesn't imply that they are in unless the other two parties have equal shares of what's left. (I'm ignoring the complexities of the electoral college, and different districts for congress, but the point would be essentially the same if I greatly expanded it to deal with these points) The biggest problem with a third party is that it can hurt the causes its fighting for. If the third party is closer to either existing party, than it will draw more voters from that party, and if its successful enough, likely hand the election to the other.