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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (133648)3/18/2010 6:23:56 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540978
 
You are talking about points? And proof and evidence?

I'm saying that the people who do challenge the idea of Obama being a naturally born citizen, seem to have a lot of arguments (whether you consider them in any way valid or based on fact, which I'm pretty sure you don't, and not so sure I do either), in response to claims that that there is evidence that Obama is a native born American citizen, but that such arguments (even if they where valid and based on fact), are not that important.

You would need to start with evidence that he is not a natural born American citizen. It doesn't matter if you can argue well against the counterarguments you need to establish the position in the first place, and I don't see the "birthers" doing that.



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (133648)3/19/2010 8:25:24 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540978
 
What are you talking about? What is this nonsense.

It's not nonsense. It's about standards of proof.

Nobody ever questioned the birth of Reagen, Bush, or Clinton.

Because it was obvious. There was no opportunity to question it. McCain's birth was questioned. Like Obama's, it wasn't obvious. People who want to take someone down will exploit every potential opportunity.