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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (14768)	3/19/2010 11:09:24 AM
From: John Koligman	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

Brumar, I'm sure Canadian care has it's problems, as you have outlined, but here in America we just 'dump em on the street'... John L.A. Hospital Allegedly Dumped Patient on Street By Andrew Glazer Associated Press Friday, November 17, 2006 LOS ANGELES, Nov. 16 -- In an unprecedented crackdown on a practice experts say is shamefully common around the country, a major hospital chain was accused by prosecutors Thursday of ridding itself of a homeless patient by dumping her on crime-plagued Skid Row. A surveillance camera at a rescue mission recorded the demented woman wandering the streets in a hospital gown and slippers in March. In announcing criminal and civil charges, City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo said a Kaiser Permanente hospital put the woman in a taxi and sent her to the neighborhood even though she had serious, untreated health problems. The woman found wandering on the street, Carol Ann Reyes, 63, was taken in by the Union Rescue Mission. Its director, Andy Bales, said she continues to be cared for. "Kaiser Foundation Hospitals, part of Kaiser Permanente, the largest HMO in the nation, will be held accountable for violating state law, its commitment to its patients, its obligations under the Hippocratic oath, and perhaps most importantly, principles of common decency," Delgadillo said. No U.S. hospital has ever been prosecuted on charges of patient-dumping, said Philip F. Mangano, executive director of the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness. Mangano said hospitals need to be held accountable, but he added that it is necessary to "also work with them to resolve these issues." Kaiser's Bellflower hospital, which discharged the woman, is among 10 Los Angeles area hospitals under investigation on suspicion of discharging homeless patients onto the streets instead of into the custody of a relative or shelter. The legal actions filed against Kaiser late Wednesday included criminal charges of false imprisonment and dependent-adult endangerment. Diana Bonta, vice president of public affairs for Kaiser Southern California, said the legal action unfairly demonizes Kaiser, which she said has taken steps to ensure that no more of its patients are left on Skid Row.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (14768)	3/19/2010 8:48:06 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

How Canada Secretly Keeps Costs Down Brian Sinclair died after waiting 34 hours in a hospital emergency room in 2008. Updated: Fri Mar. 19 2010 18:28:23 ctvwinnipeg.ca A judge has ruled he will not allow media outlets to televise the proceedings of the Brian Sinclair inquest. Sinclair was the wheelchair bound man who died after waiting 34 hours in the Health Sciences Emergency Room in September 2008 to have a catheter replaced. Cameras are not allowed inside Manitoba courtrooms and television outlets, including CTV News, had asked inquest judge Tim Preston to grant that access for the Sinclair inquest. Preston says even though he has the power to do that, allowing cameras is not necessary to make the inquest a public hearing. The judge says he is not limiting freedom of expression of the media, but says the court has no obligation to assist in any specific form of expression. The media argued that most people don't have the time or ability to attend the inquest in person, but the judge had concerns that filming witnesses would impact on their willingness to testify. The Manitoba Nurses Union had put forward similar concerns about cameras potentially affecting hospital staff and arguing cameras weren't needed inside the inquest. "I think that there will be full disclosure discussed and what the best way is to proceed forward. And I still don't believe that Manitobans actually being able to sit and watch TV court proceedings would've had any impact, whether the evidence is presented and recommendations made," said Sandi Mowat, president of the Manitoba Nurses Union. People now wanting to watch the upcoming inquest will have to go down to the law courts to view it in person. Some disability groups said they're disappointed with the judge's decision because many of their clients live in remote locations and are still interested in the inquest. Brian Sinclair's family issued a statement Friday afternoon which called for a full, public inquiry and said that an inquest may not be able to fully examine issues concerning Manitoba's emergency rooms. Unlike inquests, inquiries are usually televised. Representatives from media outlets said it's too early to say if an appeal will be filed against the judge's decision opposing cameras. winnipeg.ctv.ca