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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 1:19:35 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224757
 
Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Vote, Don't Debate
Democrats are ready to abandon a promise to allow lawmakers 72 hours to read and evaluate the heath-care bill before a vote.
By JOHN FUND
Democratic leaders are staunchly defending their possible use of a parliamentary maneuver to avoid a traditional vote on health care. Are they also getting ready to abandon a promise that lawmakers would have at least 72 hours to read and evaluate the language of the health care bill?

House Democrats are moving ahead with a package of budget reconciliation changes to the Senate bill that would let members enact the Senate bill by reference. A Democratic staffer tells me House leaders tentatively plan to ignore or blur the 72-hour rule when the long-delayed final analysis is delivered to them sometime this afternoon.

The Rules Committee will meet on Saturday to set the rules for debate. Following the letter of the 72-hour rule would mean no vote before late Sunday, but Democrats have allowed themselves an out. "The Democratic leadership has declared 'martial law,'" Poltico.com reports, "allowing leaders to bring legislation straight to the floor on the same legislative day." That could mean a vote as early as Saturday, with a floor debate of just four hours. The public and members of Congress would have only 48 hours or even less to examine the bill.

Democrats are in a rush for two reasons. One, the longer they wait, the iffier their chances of assembling a majority of 216 House members. Two, they're also in a hurry because the Senate needs a minimum of a week of floor debate to pass the expected reconciliation bill full of legislative "fixes." With Congress set to begin its two-week Easter recess on March 26, Democratic leaders don't want members leaving town before the issue is settled, fearing a pummeling by angry constituents back home that will weaken their resolve.

Cutting short the period for legislators and the public to evaluate the bill would raise hackles. But Democratic leaders are prepared to take the hits. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer signaled as much last Friday on the House floor in an exchange with GOP Whip Eric Cantor. "We will certainly give as much notice as possible, but I am not going to say that 72 hours is going to be the litmus test, per se, because that which we have voted on already in the House and the Senate have given Members months of notice and the American public months of notice on the substance of the propositions that are pending before us," Mr. Hoyer said.

To longtime Congressional observers, Mr. Hoyer was clearly saying he is not going to be bound by the 72-hour rule if he thinks following it will break the momentum to jam the bill through.

Yesterday, dumbObama told Bret Baier of Fox News: "I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the procedural rules are in the House or Senate." But both members of Congress and the American people have been given repeated assurances they would have at least 72 hours to look at the final language and numbers. Mr. Obama may not spend much time fretting about whether that promise is kept, but voters may think otherwise.

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 1:20:30 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224757
 
knee replacement after years of chasing the ambulance



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 1:24:55 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224757
 
Democrats to Watch: 33 Undecided nytimes.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 1:54:18 PM
From: MJ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224757
 
Why are you waiting so long to get cataracts done? If you get them done now you might enjoy life a little more.

My brother had his done 20 years ago------it gave him new life as he no longer had to contort his body to see.

Just know, if you want the state of the art lens with Medicare it won't be approved---------Medicare is still in the dark ages on what "they" "the government" will approve.

Medicare is a good example of "Government control" of your life.

Why not give those dollars taken by the Federal Government from Seniors Social Security checks and free the people to decide what insurance company they want to use----to decide how to live their lives.

How are the votes going now on "Obama-non-care"------Kucinich the big rebel of the past is now going to vote yes, Obamah did a little arm twisting.

Obama has the vote of the Tennessee Congressman who will vote yes-----why because he is not running in the fall, he can give his vote to Obama, no risk to him and his office---just throw Tennessee people under the non-campaign bus.

mj



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 2:58:02 PM
From: Ann Corrigan3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224757
 
Thought Dems hated the IRS? Obama'doesn't'Care makes their agents the enforcers. Voters will LOVVVVE that part of the bill. Face it Ken - Dems are about to pass the longest suicide note in history(the bill deserves the mental image) Democrat Party will bite the dust for decades...that's the best part of the whole mess.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (81153)3/19/2010 3:01:41 PM
From: Ann Corrigan3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224757
 
Take off the rose-colored glasses when it comes to Dems, Ken. The current fiasco demonstrates their only expertise - creating social chaos.