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Strategies & Market Trends : The coming US dollar crisis -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Real Man who wrote (27537)3/19/2010 1:59:54 PM
From: DebtBomb  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71419
 
It went up, like in 2007....so....tell me happened? Did the stock market go up while oil went to $147?
Did printing oil to $147 help the economy?
Did it take the Dow to 18,000....or 100,000?
Tell me.
Did it help the debt bubble?
Did it keep real estate from crashing?
Tell me.
Did it help employment?
Tell me.
Did it collapse the U.S.?
Tell me.
No country has ever printed their way into prosperity, EVER.
Do you really believe Dr. Marc Faber?
Do you really believe that China (our new boss) would allow ben to print and keep printing?
Tell me.
Do you really believe ben will print oil to $700?
I'll tell you....nothing would matter if the dollar crashed....we would all be millionaires in worthless clownbucks....and you would be burning worthless dollars to stay warm....and wiping your azz with it.



To: Real Man who wrote (27537)3/19/2010 5:24:58 PM
From: DebtBomb  Respond to of 71419
 
And...you see our AAA rating is almost toast. No country has ever printed their way into prosperity....EVER.
Now...here's what ben has against him:
1. We will lose our AAA rating....then we can all kiss our azzes goodbye.
2. If he keeps the crap up....oil will hit $200....and the economy will really be toast then.
3. China (our new boss) won't let him destroy their investments in dollars and treasuries....or they'll pull off the nuclear option on the dollar....again, we'll kiss our azzes goodbye.
ben is trapped.
He bailed out his banker buddies....we'll crash, IMO.
I'm with Mish....deflation.
I think Dr. Marc Faber is wrong.
If for some reason, Dr. Marc Faber is right....nothing will matter much anyway....we'll all be millionaires in worthless clownbucks....living in a place like Zimbabwe or Weimar.
U.S., U.K. Move Closer to Losing AAA Debt Rating, Moody’s Says
March 14, 2010, 9:16 PM EDT

March 15 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. and the U.K. have moved “substantially” closer to losing their AAA credit ratings as the cost of servicing their debt rose, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

The governments of the two economies must balance bringing down their debt burdens without damaging growth by removing fiscal stimulus too quickly, Pierre Cailleteau, managing director of sovereign risk at Moody’s in London, said in a telephone interview.

Under the ratings company’s baseline scenario the U.S. will spend more on debt service as a percentage of revenue this year than any other top-rated country except the U.K., and will be the biggest spender from 2011 to 2013, Moody’s said today in a report.

“We expect the situation to further deteriorate in terms of the key ratings metrics before they start stabilizing,” Cailleteau said. “This story is not going to stop at the end of the year. There is inertia in the deterioration of credit metrics.”

The U.S. government will spend about 7 percent of its revenue servicing debt in 2010 and almost 11 percent in 2013, according to the baseline scenario of moderate economic recovery, fiscal adjustments in line with government plans and a gradual increase in interest rates, Moody’s said.

Under its adverse scenario, which assumes 0.5 percent lower growth each year, less fiscal adjustment and a stronger interest-rate shock, the U.S. will be paying about 15 percent of revenue in interest payments, more than the 14 percent limit that would lead to a downgrade to AA, Moody’s said.

U.K. Debt Service

The U.K. is likely to spend 7 percent of revenue servicing debt this year and 9 percent in 2013, rising to almost 12 percent under the adverse scenario, Moody’s said.

Financing costs above 10 percent put countries outside of the AAA category into a so-called debt reversibility band, the size of which depends on the ability and willingness of nations to reduce their debt burden by raising taxes or reducing spending. The U.S. has a 4 percentage-point band, while the U.K. has a 3 percentage-point band.

“Those economies have been caught in a crisis while they are highly leveraged,” Cailleteau said, referring to the level of private and public debt as a percentage of gross domestic product. “They have to make the required adjustment to stabilize markets without choking off growth.”

The U.S. would be the “most affected” under the adverse scenario, as the only country that would face a downgrade, Cailleteau said. The company’s baseline scenario assumes that all current AAA sovereigns will keep their ratings over the next three years, he said.

‘Distance-to-Downgrade’

“On balance, we believe that the ratings of all large Aaa governments remain well positioned, although their ‘distance-to- downgrade’ has in all cases substantially diminished,” Moody’s said in the report.

While the U.S. is likely to benefit from economic growth more than other AAA nations, weak public consumption is likely to weigh on GDP this year, the ratings company said.

“The pattern of growth and the high rate of unemployment raise the question of how strong the recovery will be going forward,” Moody’s said. “The ability of the U.S. economy to grow more rapidly and, therefore, for government revenues to contribute to fiscal consolidation, will have to depend on a revival in the growth of consumption.”

U.S. Growth

The U.S. economy will grow 3 percent this year and in 2011 after contracting 2.4 percent in 2009, according to the median estimate of economist forecasts compiled by Bloomberg. Unemployment will average 9.6 percent this year, up from 5.8 percent in 2008, and will fall to 9 percent next year, based on the median estimate.

Sales at U.S. retailers unexpectedly climbed 0.3 percent in February, compared with a median forecast for a 0.2 percent contraction, the Commerce Department said on March 12.

“The emphasis of the market, and our own, will move increasingly away from public finance developments in 2010, towards medium-term consolidation plans and the credibility thereof,” Moody’s said.

Achieving the fiscal consolidation necessary to avert a downgrade will test “social cohesion” and may involve rewriting the “social contract” between governments and their people, Cailleteau said. “People have to decide what level of pain they are willing to accept to have a healthy economy.”

U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown has clashed with opposition leader David Cameron over the timing and speed of budget cuts as they prepare for an election that must be held by June 3.

‘Very Fragile’

The opposition Conservatives argue that the government should come to grips now with the budget deficit, while Brown’s Labour Party says it’s too soon to remove fiscal stimulus.

“Although the economy is now growing, recovery is still in its early stages and remains very fragile,” Brown told business leaders in London on March 10. “We’re not going to withdraw the stimulus until the recovery is assured.”

The U.K. economy, which emerged from its longest-ever recession last quarter, is forecast to expand by 1.2 percent this year after a 5 percent contraction in 2009, according to median economist estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Unemployment will average 8 percent this year and 7.9 percent next year, the estimates show.

“The question here is less when fiscal retrenchment ought to start, but rather how credible it is that sufficient retrenchment will take place,” Moody’s said.

businessweek.com