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To: TimF who wrote (133798)	3/19/2010 10:10:47 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542212

" Maybe something like Medicare (the concept of a program for the poor, more than the structure and execution of the particular program)" The concept of Medicare is Single Payer Universal Coverage (except eyes and teeth) for everybody from the 65th birthday cake to the grave. I'm glad you approve. Let's do it for everybody, starting with da mama's biocradle, like every civilized country on the planet does. It is a program the Republicans would like to execute, tho. "I don't generally want the government funding medical care" I don't generally want the government to take my money and fight in every country in the world and to buy a lot of fun toys that go boom, like they have done ever since they started taking my money. You'll get over it. I am, now that I am retired and they don't take my money.

To: TimF who wrote (133798)	3/20/2010 11:05:55 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 542212

Not paying for X, isn't saying "no X", its just "We won't pay for X, pay for it yourself?" It's really pitiful how many people conflate the two. Of course, it's easy to envision things playing out in such a way that they become equivalent. It has been done elsewhere--that which is not in the federal package is outlawed. But that's down the road. Lots of steps to go through before we get there. There will be supplemental insurance which is a two-class system, then cries for universal supplemental insurance, then either universal supplemental insurance or embargoes on supplemental treatments. The former leads to the poorhouse. The latter results in not paying for X being the equivalent of saying "no X." Either way, a dystopia.