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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (15175)	3/23/2010 10:10:10 AM
From: Sdgla	Respond to of 42652

Facts are cryptonite to the left. Their answer is to walk away. and hopefully with a process of continuous improvement we can get to where we need to be on coverage AND cost. What a crock. Living on the public dole as a nation doesnt work especially when the government is moving towards being responsible for almost 50% of GDP. It's a Civil War: What We Do Now Tuesday, March 23, 2010 ShareThis A terrible thing happened to America on Sunday, March 21, 2010. The country took its biggest step ever down a road diametrically opposed to its original intent of keeping the state small so that the individual can be free and great. Therefore, in this unprecedented crisis of values, this is what needs to be done: 1. Know and teach America's core values. We got to this point solely because over the past few generations, Americans have forgotten the values that have made America distinctive and great. Even the "Greatest Generation" failed to communicate them. In a nutshell, they are what I call the American Trinity: "In God we trust," "Liberty" and "E Pluribus Unum." The left has successfully made war on all three -- substituting secularism for God and religion in as much of American life as possible; substituting equality (of result) for liberty; and multiculturalism is the opposite of "E Pluribus Unum." People who do not understand American ideals -- especially small government -- now dominate our schools, our entertainment media and our news media. (My own contribution here is a video titled, "The American Trinity" at prageru.com. Please view it and forward it.) 2. Recognize that we are fighting the left, not liberals. Conservatives and centrists are no longer fighting liberals. We are fighting the left. Liberalism believed in American exceptionalism; the left not only does not believe in it, the left opposes it. President Obama, when asked if he believes in American exceptionalism, replied, "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism, and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." Liberalism believed in creating wealth; the left is interested in redistributing it. Liberalism believed in a strong defense. The left believes in cutting defense and a strong United Nations. 3. Democrats should be referred to as Social Democrats. This is not meant to be cute, let alone as a slur. But calling Democrats Social Democrats is an effective way of reminding Americans that there is no longer any difference between what is now known as the Democratic Party and the Social Democratic parties of Europe. When the Democratic Party returns to its roots as a liberal, not a left-wing, party, we will happily resume calling the party by its original name. However, since no Democrat can cite a significant difference between the Democratic Party and the SD parties, there is no good reason not to use the more accurate nomenclature. 4. Work tirelessly to repeal the bill. We must single-mindedly work to repeal the government health plan. We all know that it is difficult to repeal entitlements because they are like drugs and it is very difficult to wean people off drugs. But it is not impossible. We need to warn our fellow Americans that entitlements will do to America what drugs eventually do to addicts. All Republicans must run for office on the "repeal" issue. Even when they lose, the difference between right and left, between Republicans and Social Democrats will have been made clear; and clarity is our best friend. 5. Our motto: "The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." I used this phrase in addressing the Republican members of Congress. It has become widely used, including by Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif., on the House floor during the Congressional debate on Sunday. It encapsulates this epic battle of American values versus leftist values. Every movement needs a motto. I nominate this. 6. Do not let other matters distract. Neither Republicans nor conservatives are united on every issue facing America. Immigration is one example. But we are united on the big government vs. free individual issue, which, more than anything else, has defined America. If we allow any other domestic issue to divide us, we will lose. And here's why: If Americans forget what America stands for, it won't help us if there is not one illegal immigrant here. And if we do remember what it means to be American, we can handle anything. 7. Acknowledge that we are in a non-violent civil war. I write the words "civil war" with an ache in my heart. But we are in one. Thank God this civil war is non-violent. But the fact is that the left and the rest of the country share almost no values. The American value system and the leftist value system are irreconcilable. If the left wins, America's values lose. If American values prevail, the left loses. After Sunday's vote, for the first time in American history, one could no longer confidently believe that the American system will prevail. And if we don't fight for it, we don't deserve it. dennisprager.com

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (15175)	3/23/2010 12:50:12 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

I missed it. Is it online?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (15175)	3/23/2010 3:11:32 PM
From: Road Walker	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Hey Peter should we just shut down this thread? It seems like this question has been answered: A US National Health Care System?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (15175)	3/24/2010 7:56:32 AM
From: RetiredNow	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

I think the American people know exactly what they are getting when it comes to the GOP. We've all known for awhile that the GOP lies, it cheats, it has no class, and it is controlled by the far right fringe. There is no honor left in the GOP, which is why they have lost the older Republicans like me and the center. Goodbye and good riddance. nytimes.com But David Frum, the former W. speechwriter, conceded that in trying to turn health care into Obama’s Waterloo — a replay of the Clintons’ disaster in 1994 — Republicans may have made it their own Waterloo. “We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat,” Frum wrote on his blog, adding: “Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants to murder your grandmother?” Some base members of the Republican base showed themselves as the racist Neanderthals they are. Protesters outside the Capitol on Saturday called two black congressmen, the civil rights hero John Lewis of Georgia and Andre Carson of Indiana, a racial epithet as they walked by. Another, Representative Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, was called that epithet and got spit on. Barney Frank of Massachusetts was called an anti-gay slur. The anti-abortion Democrat Bart Stupak was called a “baby killer” by Texas Republican Representative Randy Neugebauer, who says he’s had a “tremendous outpouring” of support for his outburst. It was disgusting. And for the Democrats who had battled each other through every twist and turn of health care, it was unifying. ... But at long last, when push came to shove, he shoved (and let Nancy push). He treated politics not as an intellectual exercise, but a political one. He realized that sometimes you can’t rise above it. You have to sink down into it. You have to stop being cerebral and get your hands dirty. You can fight fear with power. The Chicago pol in the Oval has had to learn one of the great American truths: You’ve got to slap the bully in the face.