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Politics : Ask Michael Burke -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121531)	3/23/2010 11:14:16 AM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 132070

KT, I think you are missing the point. Those that control the money control the politics and wealth redistribution UNTIL such time that they fuck a country up so badly that the people either kill them or elect a person that does it for them. In the end, the Hitlers and Mussolinis get into power because of deep depressions, hyper-inflations, and massive wealth redistribution from the bottom to the top (kind of like where the US is heading now). Those are mostly a monetary phenomenon.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (121531)	3/23/2010 12:50:32 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

>>The power was not in the money, it was in politics.<< i agree this is ultimately true when the rubber hits the road, however, i believe it is incorrect to believe that money can't control politics for long periods of time - especially when it takes money to get elected. let's take the case of obama. he's spent $1.6+ million defending himself against lawsuits claiming he isn't a natural born citizen and is unfit for the presidency. now, if it were me, i'd save the $1.6 million and present a legal birth certificate. apparently, obama doesn't like money or he can't produce said birth certificate or similar proof of citizenship. let's say he can't prove he's a natural born citizen. let's say the goldman sachses of this world new this and now hold it over his head. what political power does obama have without being kicked out of office? a guy like obama is going to essentially be a puppet for these big money people unless he grows a conscience - and that is unlikely given how depraved he is in regards to the honesty. we know that the timing of the collapse last year was chosen by the uber banks - they chose when to send lehman into collapse by naked shorting it into oblivion. i'm sure blankfein and paulson both had each other on speed dial, too. remember, someone made well over $150 million on a $1.7 million short term put play with a 30 strike price when lehman was trading above $60... no insider trading there, huh.... jackson, garfield, lincoln and mcfadden fought off the private banker control of the nation's money supply. at least two of them issued debt free money. all four were victims of assassination attempts - three of them successful. i wanted to throw kennedy in there, too, as he was likely assassinated because he didn't want to run up the debt and increase the profits of the military complex (owned by these same super rich people) by attacking cuba and vietnam. he rejected operation northwoods - a false flag operation that recommended such things as murdering americans and blaming it on cuba. he also didn't want to start an all out war in vietnam. once kennedy was killed, LBJ lined up to run the gulf of tonkin false flag operation to trick the american people into accepting going to war with vietnam - and 58k american sacrificed for LBJ's lie. debt increased and military complex was enriched. some argue we didn't fight to win... maybe true - winning quick isn't as profitable. i believe the big money people have learned from the past and so they effectively own much of the military and security complex and currently control the nation's money supply via the fed and control government. your point is well taken in that this could change, but there is no indication it will change any time soon. perhaps the money is just too powerful and the greed and absence of integrity among people running for office is too pervasive. ----------------------------- Rothschild, a London Banker, wrote a letter saying "It (Central Bank ) gives the National Bank almost complete control of national finance. The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class... The great body of the people, mentally incapable of comprehending, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical (contrary) to their interests." [The bankers created the legislation for the FED] it is time to create a monetary system that isn't contrary to the interests of the citizenry. swarmusa.com.